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[Music]

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and now your host of California guffawed

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radio Laurie infant welcome everyone to

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the California MUFON radio show I'm your

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host Lori Ann Fenton I'm so happy you

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guys are with me here tonight I've been

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missing for a couple of weeks and and I

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just oh my god I don't know where to

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start I just want to thank inception

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radio network for being there for me all

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the time I travel a lot and the poor

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guys are like is she traveling this week

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is she home we can't tell from these

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cryptic messages she sends us so the

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port guys you know so last week I'm just

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I'm really sorry we weren't here but MJ

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took off for his holiday and I was

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actually home cuz it was 11 22 and it's

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the first year in a long time

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I wasn't in Dallas for the memorial

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service I decided to come home the day

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after since I this is the first year I

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hadn't produced it in about three or

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four years so I was like you know what

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I'm just gonna come home I don't need to

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stay there I'm not producing I have to

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work and it was great I got home really

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late Monday night I slept all day

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Tuesday I was sick as a dog and then

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Wednesday I went to work and then you

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know it all started in again oh my god

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so I was really looking forward to the

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11:22 special we had James Fetzer but

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I'll tell you what folks Jim was Jim and

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Larry Rivera were actually gonna show up

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you know what Larry actually was on

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three other shows that night and I think

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what was gonna happen is he sent me all

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of his finals and I was gonna play them

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for you guys and I was going to show you

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that what he's discovered now is you

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guys all know there Vera is the guy that

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discovered that Lee was now he didn't

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discover Lee was in the dark way I mean

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Jim Garrison knew that Lee was in the

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doorway he's the first person to have

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taken a blender and these other programs

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and layered over his face with his

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pictures and his portraits and proven

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with you know FBI facial recognition

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software that it was actually Lee

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in the doorway so we know that it's the

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and I don't know if you guys can hear it

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but Mike one of my cats just croaking

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like you like it frog out here I don't

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song with her but oh well that's another

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old story I'm gonna go into that in a

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minute but let's go down with the cats

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everybody asked me you know it's funny

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I'm a radio talk-show host that all

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people ask me when they see me and beat

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me is how are your cats and I'm like oh

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they're fine

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you know but it's so funny that's the

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first thing that comes up usually so and

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the second thing is how do you know so

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much about UFOs and aliens I'm like I

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don't know I think they just instill the

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connection straight to them and that's

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why I get I get all the info

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he had going back to Larry Rivera and

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the conference oh my god the conference

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is really wonderful this year it was

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kind of the same speakers as last year

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so you know we had a little bit of new

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information and that was good

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but Larry knocked it out of the park

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this year because last year he proved

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that Lee was in the doorway Lee Harvey

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Oswald standing in the doorway watching

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the limousine go by so it's pretty hard

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to shoot somebody when you're down on

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the first floor in the doorway give me

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your picture taken as I tell everybody

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that even actually even questions

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whether we was up in there oh my god on

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that sixth floor door oh god you guys I

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gotta go off on a tangent I this is what

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my rant I got to do this what the heck

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is the city of Dallas still holding on

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to that stupid six lore Museum having

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all those boxes set up with the

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plexiglass II can't go in there and

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disturb it just like it was in 1963 and

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our big joke as all the JFK researchers

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say yeah go on up to the sixth floor

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Museum get your little tour pay your $25

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or whatever it is to stand there and

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look at a room that doesn't have Lee

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Harvey Oswald in it just like it didn't

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at 11

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there are 12:30 on 11 22 1963

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it's a total I don't know if they

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understand what they're they're doing

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but he's not standing there now and he

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wasn't standing there then so and and

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it's and they say this is

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clean out of the room was when when he

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shot them you know I've just we all

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laugh I mean it's like it's the biggest

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joke in the community beyond I think

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anything else that goes on with us is

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that that darn sixth floor museum has to

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sit up there and can perpetuate a lie as

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the way they do and God just makes me so

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angry anyhow I have plans for them they

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don't know it but when Laureen gets

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pissed about something and she sees away

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around them and yeah so I'm telling you

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folks I got something planned it's not

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gonna make them very happy at all but

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that's okay that's a thing for another

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day another time if I ever make enough

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money off of what I'm doing right now

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that's definitely on my hit list I think

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that's number one on the hit list of

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things I want to do once I make some

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real money and that it is go after the

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sixth floor museum with all my heart

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actually it's number two number one is

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get Lee Harvey Oswald exonerated in the

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Congressional Record because I mean

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here's a guy the poor guy now he was

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complicit because he knew what was going

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on but what he was trying to do and I

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have to reiterate this every time I say

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he was complicit because you know how do

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you one man fight against the the mass

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amount of people that were up in those

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nest you guys there were like seven

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nests with four people in it sometimes

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for the 28 people shooting that we know

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of probably were more where our guesses

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are probably more like 35 so you know

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how do you go up against 35 people to

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mob the CIA the FBI LBJ the Cubans I

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mean everybody was involved and he was

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sitting there trying to figure out a way

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to save JFK's life I mean that's what he

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was doing he was actually up on the

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sixth floor about 12:00 noon and he had

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a gun and Loy factor was up there Mac

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Wallace was up there and Rita Rita

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Lorenz I think is her name she was on

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the walkie-talkie and they were all

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spotting each other and they were you

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know I mean he had the gun in his hand

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but he set it down and walked away that

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I'm not doing this so you know that

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there's a real hero for ya I mean he he

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tried to think of anything he could up

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until that moment to stop it and he

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couldn't stop it so he just did not

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participate and I think that is that is

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so brave I mean they could have shot him

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right there on the spot and killed them

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for not participating so you know I'm

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just I I don't know the whole thing

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stinks and there's just way too many

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people that have come out of the

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woodwork in the last 50 years that have

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told the truth what really happened Lee

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Harvey Oswald was not up on the sixth

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floor

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so exonerating him is number one number

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two is getting rid of that dar museum

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unless they want to put the right people

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up there mannequins that the right

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people would be really fine with me and

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then a whole explanation of what really

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went down that day that would be fine

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with me

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but you know perpetuating this lie is

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making me nuts absolutely freaking nuts

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and a you know that's half the reason I

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left Dallas early too is because I don't

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think I could take another

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11:22 standing on that hill when I can't

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get this this to happen you know I feel

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so bad for Judith Barry Baker I mean

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this poor woman that she spends her

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whole life doing nothing but trying to

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exonerate leave that's all she does and

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she can't live in this country anymore

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they've tried to kill her a million

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times I mean what kind of hell is that

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you know all this over perpetuating a

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lie you know oh god okay well okay

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nothing Dallas Dallas was fabulous the

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conference was fabulous everything was

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great I got to sit with Chris Milligan

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and tried name books and Jim Fetzer was

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there Larry Rivera was there everybody

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was there and what I was trying to tell

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you guys at the beginning of the show is

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that last week if we had the show Larry

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would have proven to you two new things

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that he's discovered he's discovered

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that the body of JFK that they used to

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Bethesda Maryland at the hospital to do

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the autopsy with was not JFK he has

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proven it now he's used his you know his

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FBI facial recognition software and all

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that stuff to get all the photos he

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could of everybody that was on a slab at

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that time because we're not sure how

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many people were actually involved in

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this as the body doubles and so what

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they're doing is they're actually doing

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the facial break

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mission on them as well and they're

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starting to really believe that JD

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Tippit actually was on that slab at

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Bethesda and so very interesting stuff

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going on I mean everybody thinks oh my

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god it's 54 years later how come you

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guys are still invested with this you

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know I get this everywhere I go I get

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why do you bother with JFK you know

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there's so many other things going on I

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go because if we could solve that if we

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can get him exonerated if we can get all

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this to get back to the way it was

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before that trigger got those triggers

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got pulled in 1963 folks it would show

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people right now what this country could

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be if we get rid of all the falsehoods

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the lives the the the myths everything

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that they've created around that that

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whole assassination it would open up

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people's eyes to the point where they go

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well shoot they lied about that then the

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Warren Commission was a total lie like

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it was if everything was the way it was

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back then and they got away with it what

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are they doing to us now that's the

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bottom line folks that's why I keep

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harping on this I think it's so

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important it is just so important to me

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it should be important to every man

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woman and child in the United States

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seriously that we fix this and then once

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we fix that then everything else to fall

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in place like dominoes that's really the

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bottom line here okay well okay I'm done

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I'm done with JFK for a while at least

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it's like you James and Larry back on

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the ship so we'll get him here folks I

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promise and I'm sorry about last week

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but MJ was gone I was panicked everybody

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was running around in circles and it was

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just one of those days it was agony was

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kind of fun in the end because I got to

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talk to Larry and Jim for an hour during

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when we would have been live on air so

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we had a good time

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wish you guys could have been there I

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should probably should have just say hey

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what if I could plug into I are added

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and just do this conversation that would

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have been great you guys would have

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gotten an earful it would have been

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really interesting anyhow the other

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things that are going on with me ant

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right now are the fact that I don't know

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if you guys heard me on Dave Scott

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spaced out radio last week I think it

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was last week at lunch er yeah it was it

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was um

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I think it was a Thanksgiving night or

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the night after Thanksgiving I can't

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remember but you should listen to that

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show

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grant Cameron was on for the first two

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hours and that I came on in the last

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hour and grant and I started talking

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about some of the major research that

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he's been doing on the people that run

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the narratives within the UFO community

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now this is very important to folks

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because you know me I just don't get

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involved with just oh yeah there's an

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alien and he said hi to me and I have

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babies in space I'm not doing all that

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right now what I'm trying to get down to

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is who in the heck is running the show I

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want to know who that humans are that

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are interfacing with the aliens that are

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run in our narrative and telling us

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we're supposed to believe in the UFO

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community this is where I'm at now I'm

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I'm getting mad on all fronts I'm a-goin

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it's time to expose all the cabal's at

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every angle and every space that we can

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so you know that's pretty much it you

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guys I guess I'm just getting old and

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cantankerous and I finally decided not

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gonna bother with the contact I get

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contacts great I love it and I want to

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talk about if our guest tonight who's

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who's going to be an extraordinary

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interview I can tell here in a few

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minutes but telling you folks it's just

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you know I really

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it's how the contact is happening that's

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changing a lot we're gonna talk about

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that a bit tonight but I want to know

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who the people are behind all that all

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the the curtains that I've been pulling

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our strings since 1947 I'm not kidding

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you did the same dudes they started the

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working group in the 60s and the next

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thing you know it's the same people

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showing up at Tom DeLonge stable and

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that's when I realized I have been being

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duped all this time and I hope you guys

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saw that too I hope that this whole time

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the long thing was a big eye-opener for

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me I mean I've been on the right track

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all this time and I knew who the players

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were I had a feeling they were behind a

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lot of stuff and I knew what was going

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on the Bigelow crowd the John Alexander

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crowd the Avery the working group you

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know I know that these

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guys are all back there pulling strings

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like little puppet masters and I know

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the dark side of them too someday I'll

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have some people on telling you guys

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about but they know about these guys but

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anyhow that's another story for another

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day

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but really folks we want to sit around

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now okay I jumped ahead the whole Tom

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DeLonge thing if you look at who's on

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his staff who's his board who's telling

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him what to do this whole nine yards

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is basically he's the next guru puppet

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master they pulled out of their pocket

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and he is the next little Bassets dead

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I'm sorry not Bassett the Greer's dead

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Bassets dead too as far as they're

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concerned Cory good didn't work out

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because he is a mind-controlled victim

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and to contact thee and he couldn't keep

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on script Tom DeLonge is deluded he's

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deluded himself into thinking that he's

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in that important that they came after

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him to be the next savior of the UFO

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community sorry folks it isn't that way

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these guys run everything from how this

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guy thinks and he is so it you know it

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blows my mind you got to have the ego

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because you don't have that ego you

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can't be duped by these people

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I mean Greer was duped by them for years

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years and years I mean it's just it's

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all it's all because of their ego they

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think they're that important they think

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that these guys are coming to them

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because they're all that important

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they're coming to them because they can

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use them and manipulate them it's

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nothing to do with being important oh

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god okay see now I'm starting to get

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angry dude all right I'm gonna calm down

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and I'm gonna talk about contact a

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little bit I just want to say one thing

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there have been reports from some

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contactees a lot of these guys in the

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working group and the people that are

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controlling the narrative about who's

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the best speaker right now and why are

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these you know here okay I am gonna go

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down this path I wasn't gonna do it

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tonight but I'm gonna do it I'm sitting

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here struggling to put on my conference

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I have about 12 to 13 extraordinary

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speakers I want to bring to this

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conference this year and they are not

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well known and because the

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being eco maniac into the narrative as

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all these guys want like many of the

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people out there that are in the UFO

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community that have written a book and

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they're like oh that the the saviors

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right now they're at the big conferences

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they're all speaking and everybody's got

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to go see them you know I still can't

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figure that one out why anybody pays to

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see 90% of these people I don't even

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understand and why they don't pay the

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small amount I charge for my conferences

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to see people that are actually got

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their heads out of the you-know-what and

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actually know what they're talking about

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and I've been through hell with the

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aliens or working for or just life in

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general I can give you guys some real

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real crazy amazing advice I mean I don't

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I don't get it but I'm still trying to

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you know figure that one out for myself

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it's my issue deal with you know people

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say I should just sell out and bring in

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Stan's freaking bed oh my god my

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integrity is at stake here folks I can't

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do that

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I've got to bring you people that no one

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knows about I've never seen before don't

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or have the answers to what's really

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going on out there I mean I can't do

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this it's just you know it's not part of

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my makeup but anyhow okay so you know

436
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I'm just basically trying to tell you

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that these guys that are the working

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group the aviary the guys that are

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pulling the strings they go to these

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conferences they these big conferences

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and many a time while they're these big

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conferences and people are yakking at

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them contact these are seeing them from

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across the room and they are flipping

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out because these people are the

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perpetrators of many of their mylabs

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experiences so just wanna let you guys

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know that okay and that's the only thing

449
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I'm gonna say I'm not gonna say any more

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than I can say who what when where and

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how but I'm saying I know that for a

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fact

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and I hope the person that knows that

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told me is not mad at me for telling you

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guys but I think you have the right to

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know that these guys are not playing you

457
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know on on our side these guys are

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playing both sides of the equation and

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they don't give a rat's patootie about

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to contact these at all so just remember

461
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that okay alright I'm done with my rants

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I'm done with my thing I hope I stirred

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up enough feathers tonight I'm probably

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not making any sense either cuz I've got

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still got my cold trying to breathe

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seeing that was a big mistake and thank

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God I got my voice back this week I

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really didn't have it last week so this

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is good anyhow I hope I'm making sense

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you guys I'm just you know I'm ranting

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and raving here on irn inception radio

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network thank God they love me and they

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let me rant I just love them for it

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so thanks MJ thanks Jo thanks Bob I

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really appreciate it you guys know that

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and so let's bring out my guest tonight

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my guest tonight is Russell a briny gar

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as I say that right Russell its brother

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ger okay well that's really interesting

480
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because there's an eye in there yeah

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that's like then agree with a br ah

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gotcha okay a prin occur okay they say

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it right that time yep

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okay good well Russell thank you for

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being on the show tonight and thank you

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for sitting through my rant there I

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really appreciate it

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every yea every guest is having to order

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them these days it seems I seems that

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Wednesday night is my rant night I kind

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of do it on Mondays but Wednesday seems

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to be the night go back anymore you know

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by the time I get to Wednesday I'm

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really upset you know so I found you on

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Facebook and I don't know much about you

496
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at all so would you do me a big favor

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would you tell the audience what your

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experiences are where who you are where

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you come from how this all started for

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you what's been going on why don't you

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do that

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okay well currently I'm 62 years old on

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two months into my retirement and

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enjoying every minute of it

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I have no aspirations in the UFO field

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for fame or glory or profiteering I'm

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live a happy little peaceful life in New

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Castle Indiana but I was raised in

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Florida in Titusville Florida I grew up

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on the Space Coast

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I will tell you that I really miss

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having missiles going off just about

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every other day don't get me wrong I

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mean people think I'm a big hater NASA

515
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but I think you know whatever at least

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they did something right you know I was

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born on September 12 1955 my parents job

518
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either

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I cried solid for the first six months

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so you know I'm guessing that where I

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was just prior to this incarnation was a

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pretty nice place that I didn't leave a

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great child growing up right ten miles

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from Playland to Beach I could see the

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vertical Assembly Building right across

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from the Indian River down there and my

527
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grandparents came in from Texas during

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the Apollo moon rockets with their super

529
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8 movie cameras and I watched all those

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missiles go off and I'll tell you that

531
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was quite a sight to see because from

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five miles away you could see the Saturn

533
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5 sitting there on the gantry pad and

534
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when it went off you just worried that

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it was going to tip over because it just

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stayed stationary for five to ten

537
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,020
seconds and then you heard the ground

538
00:22:25,940 --> 00:22:24,480
Rumble and windows broke and where we

539
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:25,950
were at there was a million people

540
00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:27,510
standing on the rest of their car

541
00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:29,430
selling hot dogs I mean it was a big

542
00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:34,800
thing and but I was brought up in the

543
00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:38,790
scientific paradigm I was very much

544
00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:40,830
interested in science fiction in my

545
00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:43,320
childhood in Florida when I was eight

546
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:46,740
years old they collected 1962 Mars

547
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:49,290
Attacks cards which I still have a

548
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:50,640
collection now that I collected them

549
00:22:56,980 --> 00:22:53,450
back on eBay in the last few years and

550
00:23:01,100 --> 00:22:56,990
but I never really you know delved into

551
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:01,110
the paranormal or UFOs took the subject

552
00:23:07,670 --> 00:23:04,170
seriously and this lasted pretty much

553
00:23:10,610 --> 00:23:07,680
until I was 54 years old and then I had

554
00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:10,620
a heart attack and a near-death

555
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:12,990
experience that completely changed my

556
00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:16,530
whole paradigm because in the course of

557
00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:19,860
this incident I it was revealed to me

558
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:20,360
that we

559
00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:21,530
are in fact living in a

560
00:23:26,590 --> 00:23:24,470
multi-dimensional existence and if you'd

561
00:23:29,230 --> 00:23:26,600
like to hear that story I'll be glad to

562
00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:29,240
tell you oh please do because this is

563
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:30,590
why you're on the show tonight is

564
00:23:35,049 --> 00:23:33,290
because I saw that information on

565
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:35,059
Facebook and I went that this is pretty

566
00:23:41,770 --> 00:23:37,460
cool because I look this is really the

567
00:23:43,930 --> 00:23:41,780
type of experience that most of the

568
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:43,940
people who are having extra dimensional

569
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:47,450
contact are having is it's almost like a

570
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:49,130
near-death experience so that's why I

571
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:50,690
wanted people to hear about this tonight

572
00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:53,330
so go ahead okay well I was working at a

573
00:23:58,180 --> 00:23:55,220
local nursing home I was a rehab manager

574
00:24:00,810 --> 00:23:58,190
for as an occupational therapist and a

575
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:00,820
rehab facility here in Newcastle Indiana

576
00:24:06,669 --> 00:24:03,910
and it was a regular day August the 18th

577
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:06,679
2009 it was a nice sunny day outside and

578
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:09,679
I wanted to go home and mow my grass and

579
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:11,330
just get that done and then come back

580
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:14,210
and finish out the afternoon and I was

581
00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:16,850
feeling fine that was a great day I was

582
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:19,580
happy and I went home opened up the

583
00:24:24,669 --> 00:24:22,250
garage I got the lawnmower out and I

584
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:24,679
pulled it on it a couple times started

585
00:24:32,169 --> 00:24:28,520
it up and about ten feet into the first

586
00:24:34,090 --> 00:24:32,179
swipe I was overcome with a feeling of

587
00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:34,100
extreme fatigue that I had never felt

588
00:24:39,070 --> 00:24:36,919
before and the first thing I thought of

589
00:24:41,620 --> 00:24:39,080
was since it was hot outside that I was

590
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:41,630
dehydrated so I thought well I better

591
00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:44,450
get inside and I went inside the house I

592
00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:46,429
lived in a little house all by myself at

593
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,470
the time and turned on the

594
00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:50,000
air-conditioner in the bedroom and just

595
00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:53,240
kind of laid down after oh if I were 10

596
00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:55,000
minutes or so I started feeling better

597
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,080
and I thought well that was really

598
00:25:01,330 --> 00:24:59,600
strange got myself a glass of water and

599
00:25:04,539 --> 00:25:01,340
went back outside to the fire the one

600
00:25:07,150 --> 00:25:04,549
were up like a dummy and when another 10

601
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:07,160
feet and that same feeling of extreme

602
00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:09,770
fatigue came over me only about 10 times

603
00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:12,470
worse and I was just standing there and

604
00:25:18,340 --> 00:25:16,070
I knew what was going on you know I was

605
00:25:21,549 --> 00:25:18,350
having a heart attack I just knew it and

606
00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:21,559
in fact I thought it was I was going to

607
00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:25,070
die imminently and even though I had

608
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:27,830
always considered myself an agnostic I

609
00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:29,450
was brought up there's a fundamentalist

610
00:25:33,159 --> 00:25:31,580
Christian and when I was 13 years old I

611
00:25:34,090 --> 00:25:33,169
started having all kinds of questions

612
00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:34,100
about

613
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:35,990
that my poor mother couldn't answer like

614
00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:37,970
you know how can you get 27 million

615
00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:40,700
species and a 450-foot bow 4,000 years

616
00:25:50,529 --> 00:25:49,190
ago you knows things like that you get

617
00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:50,539
that there in the headlights and you

618
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:54,440
move on but I was filled with an

619
00:25:58,029 --> 00:25:55,910
unexpected feeling of anticipation

620
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,039
because even though I'd always

621
00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:00,080
considered myself an agnostic kind of

622
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:02,030
moved away from the Christian faith I

623
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:04,970
was very curious if in fact there was

624
00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:07,490
any type of life after death and and it

625
00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:09,830
just I felt like a kid on Christmas

626
00:26:14,830 --> 00:26:11,990
morning it's like oh good I get to find

627
00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:14,840
out for sure you know whether this you

628
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:15,980
know thing that you hear about that

629
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:18,320
there's life after death is that actual

630
00:26:22,659 --> 00:26:20,809
reality so I started circling around in

631
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:22,669
the grass like a dog trying to look for

632
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,289
a place to do his business I I didn't

633
00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:27,039
want to lay on gravel the pathway and

634
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:29,480
finally found myself a nice little patch

635
00:26:33,580 --> 00:26:32,150
of grass and the Sun was beating down on

636
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:33,590
me and I just thought man this is

637
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:35,090
beautiful you know I'm just going to be

638
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:36,799
able to just just sail away from here

639
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:38,960
and it'll be either an eternity of

640
00:26:42,460 --> 00:26:40,850
unconsciousness but I'm going to get to

641
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:42,470
find out you know what's beyond the bail

642
00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:45,650
and just as I had that thought it was

643
00:26:50,380 --> 00:26:48,500
very strange because it's almost like I

644
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:50,390
was pulled out of time I was just

645
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:54,559
standing there there was no sound there

646
00:26:58,510 --> 00:26:56,570
was no birds the sound of traffic

647
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,520
stopped and everything and then the

648
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:01,039
strangest thing unexpected thing

649
00:27:07,090 --> 00:27:05,120
happened in entities that I knew that I

650
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:07,100
was very familiar with started showing

651
00:27:12,669 --> 00:27:10,130
up and it was almost like I didn't see

652
00:27:15,340 --> 00:27:12,679
them with my eyes but I knew they were

653
00:27:21,399 --> 00:27:15,350
there and there's a few people that

654
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:21,409
showed up in my presence yeah I'm gonna

655
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:23,750
start asking you about these entities

656
00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:26,480
now did they show themselves as people

657
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:29,480
you knew or were they alien entities or

658
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:32,750
would they be considered angels well

659
00:27:37,899 --> 00:27:34,690
here's the thing it was almost like I

660
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:37,909
googled into a computer Russ is dying

661
00:27:44,289 --> 00:27:40,460
and associated link started popping up

662
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:44,299
with the closest associated link popping

663
00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:47,600
up first which was my mother my father

664
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:51,020
my brother me which really freaked me

665
00:27:54,430 --> 00:27:51,289
out

666
00:27:58,270 --> 00:27:54,440
and girlfriend that I've been separated

667
00:28:01,210 --> 00:27:58,280
from for about a year because both of us

668
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:01,220
had been married divorced twice and she

669
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:03,049
wanted to get married again and I didn't

670
00:28:07,299 --> 00:28:04,490
I just couldn't go there so we've been

671
00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:07,309
separated for about a year and lo and

672
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:10,700
behold there she was I didn't with my

673
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,400
eyes I just knew it was her yeah it's

674
00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:19,039
gonna stop you for one second there's a

675
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,980
part of your story that I hardly ever

676
00:28:26,649 --> 00:28:24,080
tell anybody about that happened to me

677
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:26,659
so that's why I wanna I want to go down

678
00:28:32,049 --> 00:28:29,929
the path of you saw yourself right

679
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:32,059
explain that to me how did you see

680
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:35,210
yourself and and were you your best self

681
00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:38,570
when you saw yourself I was a higher

682
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,750
version of myself and I got the distinct

683
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:43,760
feeling that this life that I'm living

684
00:28:49,630 --> 00:28:47,510
on earth is only one feed that's going

685
00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:49,640
into this higher version of myself that

686
00:28:54,130 --> 00:28:51,830
there's like multiple existences on

687
00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:54,140
multiple timelines that are all feeding

688
00:28:57,940 --> 00:28:56,360
into this now eventually after this

689
00:29:00,010 --> 00:28:57,950
happened I eventually studied the

690
00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:00,020
simulation hypothesis and David Chalmers

691
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:01,880
has a version of the simulation

692
00:29:06,850 --> 00:29:03,770
hypothesis called the mind body

693
00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:06,860
hypothesis where you're providing input

694
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:09,980
for your higher self and then you're

695
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:11,809
also receiving input from it at the same

696
00:29:17,169 --> 00:29:14,870
time so it's like an exchange of

697
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:17,179
information between your higher self and

698
00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:19,010
your earthly life and the strangest

699
00:29:24,190 --> 00:29:21,350
thing about it was the people that were

700
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,200
there some of them the first ones to

701
00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:26,960
show up my most immediate family we're

702
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:29,630
still living their lives on earth my

703
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:31,490
mom's alive my dad's alive my brother's

704
00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:34,330
alive and Julie my estranged girlfriend

705
00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:37,580
was still alive and it was the strangest

706
00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:40,580
thing to realize that there they were I

707
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:41,780
don't know if I was looking at an

708
00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:44,330
etheric version of them or their higher

709
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:46,460
self I did not see them with my physical

710
00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:48,710
eyes but I felt their presence very

711
00:29:52,659 --> 00:29:50,870
strongly I'm and I knew that I knew who

712
00:29:55,090 --> 00:29:52,669
these people were and then there was a

713
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:55,100
few associated beings that I did not

714
00:30:00,159 --> 00:29:57,140
know who they were they were familiar to

715
00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:00,169
me but I I couldn't pinpoint exactly who

716
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,309
they were

717
00:30:05,739 --> 00:30:03,919
so I was just stunned I was stupefied

718
00:30:08,169 --> 00:30:05,749
just standing there and the hot Sun

719
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:08,179
going oh my god there there is something

720
00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:10,490
beyond the veil and I really wanted to

721
00:30:14,739 --> 00:30:13,429
reach out through the veil and cross so

722
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:14,749
that I could be with these familiar

723
00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:16,730
spirits to me because they were so

724
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:17,480
welcoming

725
00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:20,480
but the freaky thing is that some of

726
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:21,950
them were still here on earth and it's

727
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:22,970
like well how can that be

728
00:30:31,239 --> 00:30:28,970
and it was presented to me almost like

729
00:30:33,369 --> 00:30:31,249
an impression that I had a choice and I

730
00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:33,379
better make up my mind really quick they

731
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:37,070
were more than compatible with me

732
00:30:40,749 --> 00:30:38,990
crossing over at that point in time and

733
00:30:42,609 --> 00:30:40,759
I was very tempted to do so because

734
00:30:44,999 --> 00:30:42,619
right then and there I could find out

735
00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:45,009
what this whole show is all about right

736
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,899
but the newfound knowledge that we do

737
00:30:51,970 --> 00:30:50,240
live were embedded into an

738
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:51,980
interdimensional existence with other

739
00:30:55,779 --> 00:30:54,049
frequencies all around us that are

740
00:30:59,470 --> 00:30:55,789
occupied you know with with

741
00:31:01,299 --> 00:30:59,480
intelligences made me curious about what

742
00:31:04,090 --> 00:31:01,309
it would be like to live in the physical

743
00:31:06,489 --> 00:31:04,100
world a little bit longer with that

744
00:31:07,930 --> 00:31:06,499
knowledge so I was just like flip

745
00:31:09,879 --> 00:31:07,940
flopping in the back of my mind I knew

746
00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:09,889
had to make up my mind really quick but

747
00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:13,549
I decided to stay so okay I had to get

748
00:31:18,249 --> 00:31:16,220
myself to the hospital so I went inside

749
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,259
and I got my keys off the counter and I

750
00:31:22,029 --> 00:31:20,240
drove myself to the hospital instead of

751
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,039
calling the ambulance because I knew I

752
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:24,799
wasn't going to die because I had just

753
00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:28,129
been given this choice and I had made it

754
00:31:32,379 --> 00:31:30,169
so I mean as obvious I was going to make

755
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,389
it to the hospital so I pulled up I

756
00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:34,399
pulled up to the front of the local

757
00:31:41,499 --> 00:31:36,549
hospital which was about five miles away

758
00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:41,509
and I went inside and I handed the keys

759
00:31:44,739 --> 00:31:43,190
to the guy that was at the information

760
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:44,749
desk and I said I'm having a heart

761
00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:46,610
attack would you please park my car and

762
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:48,830
bring my keys to me wherever they take

763
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:50,809
me anyway his eyes got big as saucers

764
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:52,490
you know and he says I sure will you

765
00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:54,110
know so he took off out the front door

766
00:31:59,109 --> 00:31:56,299
they got me a wheelchair they will be

767
00:32:02,560 --> 00:31:59,119
into a little round I've got an IV stuck

768
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:02,570
into me morphine the doctor comes over

769
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,129
to me and says yes you're having a heart

770
00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:06,080
attack we don't have the facilities here

771
00:32:09,249 --> 00:32:07,700
to deal with this we're gonna ship you

772
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:09,259
up the ball which is about a 40 minute

773
00:32:13,899 --> 00:32:11,090
drive in an ambulance I said okay cool

774
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:13,909
so they got me on the stretcher and

775
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:15,570
they're taking me out to

776
00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:17,850
the ambulance and the Sun hit me in the

777
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:20,340
face again and I smiled I just looked up

778
00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:22,650
and I smiled I said oh this is so cool

779
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:25,830
this is so cool you know so they got me

780
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:27,930
in the ambulance newest two EMTs in

781
00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:30,630
there one was a guy in his 50s and

782
00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:32,940
there's New York and company is the best

783
00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:35,550
kept secret for great fashion at amazing

784
00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:38,550
prices the new Holiday Collection has

785
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,020
arrived in this weekend is the

786
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:42,000
friends-and-family sale every single

787
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:45,720
thing 50% off from holiday party outfits

788
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:47,940
that sparkle to hundreds of spectacular

789
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:50,880
gifts starting at $5 they have something

790
00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:53,340
for everyone including new arrivals from

791
00:32:58,550 --> 00:32:55,590
their exclusive celebrity brands from

792
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,560
Ava Mendes and Gabrielle Union hurry and

793
00:33:03,020 --> 00:33:00,000
check out the best deals of the year

794
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:03,030
from New York and company the other go I

795
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:05,730
see about 35 and they were looking at my

796
00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:08,610
monitor with really worried looks on

797
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:09,990
their face like they were going to lose

798
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:12,120
me and I knew they were gonna lose me I

799
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:13,440
knew everything was going to be fine

800
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:14,850
because I made it my decision and that's

801
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:17,850
the way it was going to be so I tried to

802
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:20,010
humor them by telling the story of a

803
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:21,810
couple of weeks previous camping were a

804
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:24,510
bee stung me on the heel trying to make

805
00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:26,010
him laugh because I wanted to break this

806
00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:27,720
seriousness of them looking at my

807
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:31,590
monitor and I heard the male EMT say

808
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,590
under his breath he'll think bee sting

809
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:36,840
when he gets to that cath lab and I

810
00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:41,940
remember thinking you know to find out

811
00:33:46,670 --> 00:33:44,280
because you know I always wanted

812
00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:46,680
ambulance right you know the sirens go

813
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,390
on and everything I was really fun

814
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:51,360
and at the time I had one of my Captain

815
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:53,130
Kirk I was hanging on to my Captain Kirk

816
00:33:58,390 --> 00:33:55,650
flip open cellphones you know so I'm

817
00:34:00,440 --> 00:33:58,400
texting various people like I texted my

818
00:34:02,090 --> 00:34:00,450
manager and said I don't think I'm going

819
00:34:05,150 --> 00:34:02,100
to make it back today I'm having a heart

820
00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:05,160
attack I'll talk to you later and but

821
00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:08,070
when I got rolled up to ball hospitals I

822
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,830
went inside and the doctors were all

823
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:12,480
there ready to go I mean they were

824
00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:14,130
scrubbed up they had her gloves on and

825
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,750
they said look real quick you know we

826
00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:16,800
can do one of two things

827
00:34:21,050 --> 00:34:18,780
you know we've got blockages we can

828
00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:21,060
either put students in or we can do a

829
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:23,150
quadruple bypass what do you want to do

830
00:34:27,350 --> 00:34:26,070
yeah I really put me on the spot you

831
00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:27,360
know so yeah

832
00:34:34,370 --> 00:34:32,880
like well I don't really know that much

833
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:34,380
about either one um can you give me the

834
00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:35,910
rundown so they gave me that right now

835
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:38,550
both and of course you know I said after

836
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:40,290
listening to what you just had to say I

837
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:42,330
think I'm going to take the stents so

838
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:44,850
they quote me into this room and there's

839
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:47,520
a television on my left and there's a

840
00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:49,680
doctor but you know little glasses on

841
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:51,030
and stuff you know what he's looking at

842
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,730
me and then I realized what the EMT

843
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:55,440
meant because when they Jam a big thick

844
00:35:00,800 --> 00:34:57,300
needle and your femoral artery on the

845
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:00,810
inside of your thigh yes but fortunately

846
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:02,250
they had me on some kind of medication

847
00:35:07,460 --> 00:35:04,530
that I knew that hurt but I didn't care

848
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:07,470
and I was more curious about watching

849
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:09,210
this whole procedure so I actually got

850
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,090
to watch the doctor place this little

851
00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:14,640
stem and I saw the collapse part in the

852
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:16,440
artery and as it's like a little para

853
00:35:20,330 --> 00:35:18,510
Chinese handcuffs because they're

854
00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:20,340
they're feeding it through this line and

855
00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:22,680
it's a little wiggly wobbly stringy

856
00:35:26,330 --> 00:35:24,540
thing and as it approached the collapse

857
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:26,340
part I'm saying there's no way that's

858
00:35:29,390 --> 00:35:27,720
going to break the artery there's no way

859
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:29,400
they can do that and all of a sudden you

860
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:31,380
twisted his wrist a little bit and boom

861
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:33,240
popped it right open and it was

862
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:34,980
successful he said first one went and we

863
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:35,880
got to know what to do

864
00:35:42,170 --> 00:35:38,430
so I watched two stents but here's where

865
00:35:43,850 --> 00:35:42,180
it gets a little strange because when

866
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:43,860
they wheeled me out of there after they

867
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:45,540
put the two stents in the back of my

868
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:48,930
heart I'm walking past and who was there

869
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,260
but my estranged girlfriend Julie with

870
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:54,720
mascara running down her face they

871
00:35:57,980 --> 00:35:56,460
wouldn't let her in because she wasn't

872
00:36:01,220 --> 00:35:57,990
family right

873
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:01,230
I started I said I thought to myself

874
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,250
right then and there

875
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:04,560
I'm gonna fix this you know this is

876
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:05,520
crazy

877
00:36:09,140 --> 00:36:08,430
she showed up for me in the yard I'm

878
00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:09,150
gonna fix this

879
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:12,270
so by and large two months later

880
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:14,310
Julie and I flew to Las Vegas and got

881
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:23,190
married by Dracula yeah well we went

882
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:25,170
through online you know and saw all the

883
00:36:28,780 --> 00:36:27,210
different things that you could do it's

884
00:36:33,350 --> 00:36:28,790
a great way to go because it's only like

885
00:36:34,820 --> 00:36:33,360
$450 and they they have a webcam that

886
00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:34,830
they'll give you at the end of it all

887
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:36,390
your friends can watch on the computer

888
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:39,570
there's no RSVPs no gifts no nothin it's

889
00:36:43,099 --> 00:36:41,160
just a cheap easy way to get

890
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,109
all your friends that are interested

891
00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:45,839
ever get married again Russell I'm gonna

892
00:36:52,339 --> 00:36:48,150
do that but I'm doing the eldest wedding

893
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,349
because I love Elvis I was in there they

894
00:36:57,049 --> 00:36:54,480
had her in another room and I saw the

895
00:36:59,390 --> 00:36:57,059
smoke you know coming down the stage and

896
00:37:01,880 --> 00:36:59,400
then the curtains open this coffin comes

897
00:37:03,529 --> 00:37:01,890
out it creaks open this guy in Whiteface

898
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:03,539
you know pops out and then they walked

899
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:06,180
her thinking really glad I stayed alive

900
00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:14,569
something here right now you are you're

901
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:16,230
like talking to a breath of fresh air

902
00:37:22,549 --> 00:37:20,190
because I have forgotten how lucky I am

903
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:22,559
I have almost died so many times and

904
00:37:27,289 --> 00:37:25,049
I've come back and I've seen myself also

905
00:37:30,019 --> 00:37:27,299
in a in a vision or almost death

906
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:30,029
experience I had once and I've gone

907
00:37:34,099 --> 00:37:31,650
through a lot of what you've been

908
00:37:36,319 --> 00:37:34,109
through not the same but you know very

909
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:36,329
similar and I always come out of it

910
00:37:40,999 --> 00:37:38,609
going this place is so cool I'm really

911
00:37:43,609 --> 00:37:41,009
glad I'm here the other place though I

912
00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:43,619
got to tell you I've been there too and

913
00:37:50,359 --> 00:37:47,640
it is spectacular so right now you're in

914
00:37:52,819 --> 00:37:50,369
that same place I am except you don't

915
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,829
know do you I mean that you may maybe

916
00:37:57,259 --> 00:37:55,200
you do maybe they showed you but the

917
00:38:00,559 --> 00:37:57,269
other place you're going to it's so full

918
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,569
of love and so amazing that once you got

919
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:02,160
there you would never chosen to come

920
00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:05,940
back well I totally believe that because

921
00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:08,700
I thought it was really stupid I'd buy

922
00:38:13,370 --> 00:38:10,950
the whole experience for frozen six

923
00:38:16,009 --> 00:38:13,380
months after this happened I really

924
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:16,019
didn't know where to go with it and I

925
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:19,140
really wasn't much of a reader in my

926
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:20,400
life you know I didn't read for pleasure

927
00:38:27,410 --> 00:38:25,920
and Julie got me my current wife got me

928
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:27,420
a Kindle you know where it's got the

929
00:38:31,930 --> 00:38:29,880
text-to-speech and everything and I was

930
00:38:35,089 --> 00:38:31,940
almost like training wheels because

931
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:35,099
hearing that audio component for me was

932
00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:38,220
the missing piece and it trained me on

933
00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:40,680
how to look at the text and how to start

934
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:42,539
reading and then at some point I didn't

935
00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:44,730
need it and now I've got a personal

936
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,430
library full of UFO books that I bought

937
00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:49,200
on eBay and there's there's hundreds of

938
00:38:54,620 --> 00:38:51,720
them that I've been through and that's a

939
00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:54,630
pretty amazing thing in and of itself

940
00:38:59,630 --> 00:38:57,089
no but I delved into the literature

941
00:39:01,609 --> 00:38:59,640
because it was a personal search on just

942
00:39:02,749 --> 00:39:01,619
what in the heck happened to me what was

943
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:02,759
that about you know and you read the

944
00:39:07,249 --> 00:39:04,650
ketamine theories and all the scientific

945
00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:07,259
explanations you know your postions

946
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:09,630
missing in your brain and EMTs released

947
00:39:16,249 --> 00:39:14,089
from the pineal gland on oh the key but

948
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:16,259
when you have a subjective experience

949
00:39:20,539 --> 00:39:18,569
like that you know nobody's going to be

950
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:20,549
able to talk you out of it with any you

951
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:22,410
know logical explanation like that but

952
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,710
but I don't blame any I tried with one

953
00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:28,079
person right they have to try because

954
00:39:33,019 --> 00:39:29,849
they never had the experience they don't

955
00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:33,029
know right you know it's amazing to me

956
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:35,880
did you get any of Betty's books by the

957
00:39:41,329 --> 00:39:37,130
way

958
00:39:45,289 --> 00:39:41,339
Betty Eadie no I've read eben Alexander

959
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:45,299
and Kenneth rings Omega project where he

960
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,930
compared the alien abduction experience

961
00:39:52,789 --> 00:39:50,640
with the near-death experience and

962
00:39:55,099 --> 00:39:52,799
that's that book and of itself was kind

963
00:39:57,950 --> 00:39:55,109
of a springboard and then something

964
00:39:59,900 --> 00:39:57,960
happened in the fall of 2012 there's

965
00:40:01,519 --> 00:39:59,910
three years later they had a friend of

966
00:40:04,009 --> 00:40:01,529
mine from a campground I belong to that

967
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:04,019
was a ghost hunter and I got a call out

968
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:06,690
of the clear blue sky from Carl and he

969
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:07,950
said that he was going to go to the

970
00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:09,900
Rhodes house up in here in Atlanta

971
00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:11,940
Indiana and asked me if I wanted to

972
00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:13,740
spend all night in a haunted house and

973
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:16,470
of course you know my old paradigm I was

974
00:40:20,299 --> 00:40:18,660
saying no I'm just going to be watching

975
00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:20,309
paint dry there's nothing going on there

976
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:21,900
but what came out of my mouth was yeah

977
00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:26,700
I'd love to I wound up doing that and it

978
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:29,069
was very interesting because I see all

979
00:40:33,859 --> 00:40:31,740
the local paranormal groups showing up

980
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:33,869
with their EVP equipment and all that

981
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:36,720
and it really sparked an interest in

982
00:40:43,579 --> 00:40:40,740
that field and it was very quick that I

983
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:43,589
picked up the connection between the

984
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:46,529
ghost phenomena the poltergeists the

985
00:40:52,999 --> 00:40:49,950
elementals the jhen UFOs everything's

986
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:53,009
all tied into a giant meta phenomena so

987
00:40:59,240 --> 00:40:56,970
I just immerse that I'm feeling better

988
00:41:01,999 --> 00:40:59,250
already tonight because I've been saying

989
00:41:03,859 --> 00:41:02,009
all along and what's crazy about this

990
00:41:06,049 --> 00:41:03,869
I'm just going to do a little tangent

991
00:41:08,359 --> 00:41:06,059
here for you some of these evil people

992
00:41:10,099 --> 00:41:08,369
that are running the UFO community

993
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:10,109
it's narrative have been saying the same

994
00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:11,940
thing I've been saying for years I just

995
00:41:16,609 --> 00:41:13,980
didn't know it until recently but it's

996
00:41:19,819 --> 00:41:16,619
this it's this simple rust it's all

997
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:19,829
connected yes all connected everything

998
00:41:24,799 --> 00:41:22,140
the JFK assassination everything it's

999
00:41:27,529 --> 00:41:24,809
all connected near-death experiences

1000
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:27,539
ghosts you name it it's all connected so

1001
00:41:32,059 --> 00:41:29,490
anyhow I want to throw that out at you

1002
00:41:34,339 --> 00:41:32,069
there so anyhow but it became an

1003
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:34,349
obsession David Wilcock actually said

1004
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,849
something that I had to laugh out loud

1005
00:41:39,289 --> 00:41:37,680
because the same thing happened to me he

1006
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:39,299
said when he got into this field he

1007
00:41:43,089 --> 00:41:40,680
couldn't look at a garbage can live

1008
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,099
without thinking of flying saucers and

1009
00:41:47,059 --> 00:41:45,599
that's kind of how I was for a couple of

1010
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,069
years because it was just such a

1011
00:41:53,569 --> 00:41:50,160
profound realization that the UFO

1012
00:41:57,499 --> 00:41:53,579
phenomena is real and there's an

1013
00:41:59,269 --> 00:41:57,509
underlying core reality to that that it

1014
00:42:02,720 --> 00:41:59,279
really does change it changes your whole

1015
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:02,730
perspective and it's like oh and then

1016
00:42:07,339 --> 00:42:05,880
you realize that very strange things

1017
00:42:10,009 --> 00:42:07,349
have happened to you all of your life

1018
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:10,019
that you just kind of filed in file 13

1019
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:13,130
and didn't think much of for example in

1020
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:16,650
1961 when I was 6 years old in a trailer

1021
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:20,400
in Florida I got a visit by oh wait you

1022
00:42:25,309 --> 00:42:22,470
could only call to shadow people and

1023
00:42:27,769 --> 00:42:25,319
this happened when I was 6 years old

1024
00:42:30,289 --> 00:42:27,779
and I didn't know what to make of it I

1025
00:42:31,789 --> 00:42:30,299
had no way to process this experience so

1026
00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:31,799
it was just something that I remember to

1027
00:42:40,729 --> 00:42:35,400
this day and I filed away and then a few

1028
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:40,739
years later in 1966 when I was 11 can we

1029
00:42:46,370 --> 00:42:43,049
go into what the shadow people kind of

1030
00:42:48,499 --> 00:42:46,380
look like I mean were they just and just

1031
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:48,509
shadows that did they interact with you

1032
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:50,220
did you have communication with them

1033
00:42:56,329 --> 00:42:52,650
what happened I'll tell you exactly what

1034
00:42:57,979 --> 00:42:56,339
happened I was laying in the bed and my

1035
00:43:00,380 --> 00:42:57,989
mother had just kind of like tucked me

1036
00:43:02,509 --> 00:43:00,390
in and she went out she shut the light

1037
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:02,519
out and there was a light on in the

1038
00:43:07,009 --> 00:43:04,859
bathroom which she always kept on and

1039
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:07,019
after she was gone and things settled

1040
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:10,650
that was ready to go to sleep these two

1041
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:14,970
black silhouettes just appeared in my

1042
00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:18,720
room and to this day you know I've

1043
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:20,460
always wondered all my life it was this

1044
00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:21,930
sort of like some after

1045
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:24,030
fact you know like a flash camera or

1046
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:25,230
something where you get an after you

1047
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:28,859
know these were two distinctly just

1048
00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:31,619
totally I've come to know it as super

1049
00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:34,440
black you know where something from

1050
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:37,230
another dimension temps to appear in

1051
00:43:40,549 --> 00:43:38,970
this dimension and they don't even

1052
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:40,559
reflect light it's like a black hole

1053
00:43:47,150 --> 00:43:43,770
it's just like a black silhouette and

1054
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:47,160
then so true yeah I could never really

1055
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:49,470
say it that well you know there's a lot

1056
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:53,280
of early UFO pictures that they at the

1057
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:55,650
time wrote it off as hoaxes because like

1058
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:57,839
half of it right down the craft was just

1059
00:44:01,460 --> 00:43:59,760
totally black you know and they thought

1060
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:01,470
oh that's that's hokey you know but

1061
00:44:05,059 --> 00:44:02,970
that's actually the super black

1062
00:44:07,099 --> 00:44:05,069
phenomena which means that part of that

1063
00:44:08,839 --> 00:44:07,109
object does not exist in this spatial

1064
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:08,849
dimension and it doesn't reflect any

1065
00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:13,020
light and but these they just when they

1066
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:14,940
appeared they they walked over real

1067
00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:17,760
slowly to me and they bent down as if

1068
00:44:22,339 --> 00:44:20,270
they were checking on me stood back up

1069
00:44:25,089 --> 00:44:22,349
turned their heads and looked at each

1070
00:44:27,740 --> 00:44:25,099
other turn back and just disappeared

1071
00:44:30,289 --> 00:44:27,750
okay and that's it it happened in the

1072
00:44:34,819 --> 00:44:30,299
course of a couple of minutes and that

1073
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:34,829
was that but then when I was 11 in 1966

1074
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,079
I was walking down the driveway in

1075
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:39,839
Titusville Florida and I looked up and

1076
00:44:46,549 --> 00:44:43,770
saw several saucer-like crafts just

1077
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:46,559
stationary hovering in the air and my

1078
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:48,660
reaction as I'm an 11 year old was to

1079
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,569
drop to my knees and cry and the reason

1080
00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:54,000
I was crying is that I wanted them I

1081
00:44:58,750 --> 00:44:56,700
wanted them to take me home I remember

1082
00:45:03,260 --> 00:44:58,760
thinking of that when I was 11 years old

1083
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:03,270
yeah little did I know in 1966 that was

1084
00:45:08,750 --> 00:45:05,970
the great UFO away that was a global UFO

1085
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:08,760
wave in 1966 so that was kind of a

1086
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:11,609
coincidental thing there well you know I

1087
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:13,770
gotta say something else

1088
00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:17,760
I used to go run track at night when I

1089
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:20,460
was in high school and every night I go

1090
00:45:24,109 --> 00:45:22,530
up to that track alone and I was begged

1091
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:24,119
them to come and take me home

1092
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:26,220
beg him I'd be on my knees practically

1093
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:27,930
all the time like I knew this place was

1094
00:45:34,339 --> 00:45:31,020
just gonna be so so much hell that I was

1095
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:34,349
saying get me out of here they never

1096
00:45:37,730 --> 00:45:35,310
came and I

1097
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:37,740
always always got stuck be left here but

1098
00:45:42,410 --> 00:45:40,080
anyhow I guess there's a purpose or we

1099
00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:42,420
won't be doing this right hmm

1100
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:45,060
then the next one was in 1976 10 years

1101
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:49,110
later and ages 21 22 and 23

1102
00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:51,000
I had episodes with sleep paralysis

1103
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:53,640
about once a week and I just wrote it

1104
00:45:58,070 --> 00:45:56,280
off as some anomaly that was happening

1105
00:46:00,650 --> 00:45:58,080
to me it was always so combined with a

1106
00:46:03,110 --> 00:46:00,660
very strange recurring dream of I'd be

1107
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:03,120
talking to somebody face to face and all

1108
00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:04,380
of a sudden their eyes got really big

1109
00:46:07,810 --> 00:46:06,180
and they started screaming and I was

1110
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:07,820
apparently turning into something

1111
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:12,330
non-human and then I would wake up so

1112
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:13,710
that was just kind of a strange three

1113
00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:15,870
years that I I mean I had no idea what

1114
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,020
was going on and then in 1979 I didn't

1115
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:22,560
find this out until the year 2012 but in

1116
00:46:26,810 --> 00:46:25,290
1979 I was driving with a female friend

1117
00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:26,820
of mine married from Indianapolis to

1118
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:30,060
Bloomington and I reconnected with her

1119
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:32,070
on Facebook after 30 years and we

1120
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:34,050
started talking down memory lane and

1121
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:36,180
when it came to this she goes you don't

1122
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,910
recall any of this no I know what and

1123
00:46:42,980 --> 00:46:40,800
she goes you don't remember the light

1124
00:46:44,810 --> 00:46:42,990
and I said no tell me about it so she

1125
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:44,820
tells me this fixed story and I'm just

1126
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:48,210
stupefied again you know where she's

1127
00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:50,430
telling me this where we were driving to

1128
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:52,860
blinked and and a light appeared and it

1129
00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:54,330
kept getting bigger and bigger and she

1130
00:46:58,340 --> 00:46:56,220
kept telling me to go faster and faster

1131
00:47:01,250 --> 00:46:58,350
and I drive like an old man but I do

1132
00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:01,260
remember hitting the accelerator and

1133
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:03,540
trying to you know listen to her and get

1134
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:06,690
away from yeah this is about one o'clock

1135
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:08,520
in the morning and then next thing I

1136
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:10,290
know it's bright I'm pulling into her

1137
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:12,750
driveway and I asked her I was very

1138
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,180
fatigued I was very very tired and I

1139
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:16,800
asked her if I could sleep on the couch

1140
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:19,770
and she said sure and she tells me the

1141
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:22,410
story that while I was sleeping she was

1142
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:24,330
in a dress that was muddy from head to

1143
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:26,970
toe from the ordeal whatever happened

1144
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:29,460
and she felt violated and she went out

1145
00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:31,170
and burnt that dress on a barbecue grill

1146
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:34,950
and so I'm amused by the story you know

1147
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,690
I'm kind of like chuckling was I really

1148
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:38,880
well apparently she had called Budd

1149
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:42,300
Hopkins and he tried to get her to get a

1150
00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:44,430
hold of me for years but she never could

1151
00:47:49,339 --> 00:47:46,980
so there's an incident that's a mystery

1152
00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:49,349
in 1979 that I

1153
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,109
was told by you know a co experiencer of

1154
00:47:57,529 --> 00:47:55,200
this thing whatever it was and I've been

1155
00:47:59,660 --> 00:47:57,539
suggested by several people to get

1156
00:48:01,759 --> 00:47:59,670
hypnotically regressed I don't really

1157
00:48:04,999 --> 00:48:01,769
want to I don't feel any urge to do that

1158
00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:05,009
because there's a reason why you know I

1159
00:48:10,359 --> 00:48:06,660
don't have any memory of what went on

1160
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:10,369
and I want to leave it that way but

1161
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:12,930
Russell that's a healthy attitude to

1162
00:48:17,269 --> 00:48:15,210
have you know I'm one of those people -

1163
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,279
I don't want to know I don't care to

1164
00:48:22,099 --> 00:48:20,160
know if it's all happening that's fine

1165
00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:22,109
I'll know about it when I die because

1166
00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:23,940
I've already done that and I know what

1167
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:25,619
happens there and you get to see

1168
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:28,470
everything you experience everything in

1169
00:48:32,180 --> 00:48:31,380
a giant explosion of of love while

1170
00:48:35,630 --> 00:48:32,190
you're doing it

1171
00:48:37,460 --> 00:48:35,640
so I'm not - I don't care I just don't

1172
00:48:39,499 --> 00:48:37,470
care people go why don't you care you

1173
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:39,509
should care and I go like why it doesn't

1174
00:48:42,229 --> 00:48:40,920
make any difference now and it's not

1175
00:48:44,359 --> 00:48:42,239
gonna make any difference if I know

1176
00:48:46,999 --> 00:48:44,369
about it it's not gonna change who I am

1177
00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:47,009
or make me be a better person or you

1178
00:48:52,009 --> 00:48:48,920
know it's not gonna really do anything

1179
00:48:54,709 --> 00:48:52,019
though it does answer the question of

1180
00:48:57,019 --> 00:48:54,719
who the evil guys behind this you know

1181
00:48:59,569 --> 00:48:57,029
the curtain well maybe I should get it

1182
00:49:01,640 --> 00:48:59,579
done but I don't know you apparently I

1183
00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:01,650
don't have that feeling or I would do

1184
00:49:05,209 --> 00:49:03,660
the regression you know because if

1185
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:05,219
there's something there I needed to know

1186
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,890
I would know that and same for you

1187
00:49:12,799 --> 00:49:09,599
probably if there is something there you

1188
00:49:15,049 --> 00:49:12,809
really needed to expose or do you would

1189
00:49:16,999 --> 00:49:15,059
get the regression I think that's why a

1190
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:17,009
lot of people do get regression is

1191
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:17,910
because they know there's something

1192
00:49:23,479 --> 00:49:20,400
there they need to tell others about to

1193
00:49:24,979 --> 00:49:23,489
warn them I really believe that you know

1194
00:49:26,539 --> 00:49:24,989
one of the reasons that I don't really

1195
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:26,549
feel any need to is I feel like they

1196
00:49:30,019 --> 00:49:28,440
know what they're doing and Jacque

1197
00:49:33,049 --> 00:49:30,029
fillet was one of the authors that I

1198
00:49:34,910 --> 00:49:33,059
really found discovered first off and of

1199
00:49:38,539 --> 00:49:34,920
course Jacque fillet believes that the

1200
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:38,549
man behind the curtain is who is unknown

1201
00:49:44,029 --> 00:49:41,369
is they some sort of control mechanism

1202
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:44,039
for human consciousness and I just

1203
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:45,630
figured that I was in good hands and

1204
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:47,099
they did what they needed to do but if

1205
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:48,660
you'd have asked me up until the time I

1206
00:49:52,849 --> 00:49:50,910
was 54 in 2009 when I had my heart

1207
00:49:56,420 --> 00:49:52,859
attack I was gonna write a book about

1208
00:49:58,249 --> 00:49:56,430
UFOs I would have laughed at you but you

1209
00:50:00,140 --> 00:49:58,259
know I immerse myself in the material a

1210
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:00,150
thoroughly read John keel there's

1211
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:03,030
wonderful yeah hazing guy huh

1212
00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:06,450
on entire collections Andrew Coleman put

1213
00:50:11,060 --> 00:50:08,520
together entire collections of John

1214
00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:11,070
kills early magazine writings from male

1215
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:15,630
and saga and oh yeah one of them is

1216
00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:17,730
flying saucer to the center of your mind

1217
00:50:21,860 --> 00:50:19,830
the other one is the outer limits of the

1218
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:21,870
twilight zone the precipation is

1219
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:25,200
percipient searching for the stream I

1220
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:26,370
mean there's all these wonderful

1221
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,180
collections of his writings and I really

1222
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:32,640
related to operation Trojan horse and

1223
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:35,370
the 8th tower was one of my favorite

1224
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:37,230
books where he thinks there's an alien

1225
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:39,300
device that was left behind on earth

1226
00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:42,030
that I was responsible for a lot of the

1227
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:45,480
paranormal activity and in England it

1228
00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:47,880
was a cult book over in the United

1229
00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:49,500
States he kind of got stones thrown at

1230
00:50:58,220 --> 00:50:54,270
him because everybody to be honest with

1231
00:50:59,570 --> 00:50:58,230
you and I knew most of his titles are

1232
00:51:01,870 --> 00:50:59,580
not that I've read them all but I knew

1233
00:51:04,970 --> 00:51:01,880
most of them Oh Disney Land of the Gods

1234
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:04,980
the eighth power is like my favorite and

1235
00:51:10,610 --> 00:51:08,490
it's one of the most obscure excuse yeah

1236
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,620
yeah yeah as well more obscure ones but

1237
00:51:14,540 --> 00:51:12,480
it was his favorite his personal

1238
00:51:17,420 --> 00:51:14,550
favorite but it didn't it wasn't a big

1239
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:17,430
seller or anything and I found out that

1240
00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:20,010
most of the really good material that

1241
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:22,380
really says good things never made it to

1242
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:24,090
the New York Times bestseller list in

1243
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:25,950
fact they made just sold a handful and

1244
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:28,710
they went into the right hands and that

1245
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,180
changed those people's lives and they

1246
00:51:35,090 --> 00:51:32,400
told people and it's the way the thing

1247
00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:35,100
works and you were talking about this

1248
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:38,700
festival the the UFO conference that we

1249
00:51:42,980 --> 00:51:41,640
just had Paila Harris I was there and it

1250
00:51:44,990 --> 00:51:42,990
was funny because the first day I got

1251
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:45,000
there I saw Grant Cameron at McDonald's

1252
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,650
and I got all excited inside you know

1253
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:48,800
because he was like my favorite guys I

1254
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:51,330
didn't but my wife had dinner with him I

1255
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:53,010
was sick for one day I missed a couple

1256
00:51:59,960 --> 00:51:57,330
of the lectures and Saturday we all got

1257
00:52:03,770 --> 00:51:59,970
young typhoid mary whatever it was that

1258
00:52:05,330 --> 00:52:03,780
went through erotic Julie said at one of

1259
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,340
the circular tables and had a nice

1260
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:06,960
conversation with him but that was the

1261
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:09,510
big news of the conference that after 40

1262
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,430
years of being a nuts and bolts guy you

1263
00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:13,200
know the study and what the various

1264
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:14,760
presidents knew and everything like that

1265
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:16,960
he is converted to

1266
00:52:22,829 --> 00:52:20,380
this paradigm the the underlying nature

1267
00:52:26,970 --> 00:52:22,839
of the UFO phenomena has to do with the

1268
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:26,980
evolution of consciousness right and one

1269
00:52:31,170 --> 00:52:28,810
of the things that I noticed which led

1270
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:31,180
me to writing my book overlords of the

1271
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,250
singularity the manipulation of

1272
00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:35,680
humankind by hidden UFO intelligences

1273
00:52:42,930 --> 00:52:38,980
and the quest for transcendence is the

1274
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:42,940
fact that Jacques pull a John keel Ivan

1275
00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:46,720
theis anderson harold wilkins Curtis

1276
00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:49,230
Peebles you know all of the old authors

1277
00:52:58,380 --> 00:52:55,750
Jim Lorenzen Apple they all yeah very

1278
00:53:00,089 --> 00:52:58,390
very similar conclusions that they

1279
00:53:01,740 --> 00:53:00,099
didn't know what the UFO phenomena was

1280
00:53:02,970 --> 00:53:01,750
really about they couldn't quite wrap

1281
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:02,980
their mind around it but it had

1282
00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:06,250
something to do with technology and in

1283
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:08,200
one of the chapters of my book I

1284
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:10,990
analyzed do a synopsis of the like the

1285
00:53:16,589 --> 00:53:14,050
top 40 UFO authors that I was exposed

1286
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:16,599
myself to and their conclusions after an

1287
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:19,450
entire lifetime and the thing is most of

1288
00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:23,290
the most of these authors wrote prior to

1289
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:25,660
1996 when Ray Kurzweil came out with

1290
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:27,820
this book The Singularity is near they

1291
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:29,770
didn't really have the concept of the

1292
00:53:34,170 --> 00:53:31,690
singularity and nobody was talking about

1293
00:53:35,849 --> 00:53:34,180
it all they knew was the UFOs and

1294
00:53:38,579 --> 00:53:35,859
technology were connected in some

1295
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:38,589
fashion or another okay so it was just

1296
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,780
kind of a bingo moment for me they're

1297
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:42,160
talking about singularity they're

1298
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:45,550
talking about some sort of future stage

1299
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:48,640
in our technological evolution where we

1300
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,220
develop the ability to interface

1301
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:53,200
technology with consciousness and slide

1302
00:53:57,570 --> 00:53:54,880
out of this reality and travel

1303
00:53:59,070 --> 00:53:57,580
throughout the universe so that was sort

1304
00:54:03,570 --> 00:53:59,080
of the conclusion that I came to a

1305
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:03,580
tentative conclusion one more piece into

1306
00:54:07,859 --> 00:54:05,770
the puzzle at that moment in time we

1307
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:07,869
were actually traveling to these

1308
00:54:12,990 --> 00:54:10,960
realities and changing what you and I I

1309
00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:13,000
mean like you and I being on this radio

1310
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:14,920
show tonight can change a lot of

1311
00:54:20,310 --> 00:54:17,920
people's lives and it knows that in the

1312
00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:20,320
singularity in the future that is

1313
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:26,200
actually the now right but what I'm

1314
00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:27,970
saying I mean everything you and I are

1315
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:29,830
doing right now is because of what

1316
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:30,400
happened

1317
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:32,170
in the future with that singularity

1318
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:34,329
because that is our higher selves that

1319
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:36,910
is our alien that is everything that we

1320
00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:39,609
create in our consciousnesses as these

1321
00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:42,670
other dimensionals beings and who knows

1322
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:44,440
maybe we're creating all these guys

1323
00:54:47,849 --> 00:54:46,089
coming in here maybe we create the

1324
00:54:49,319 --> 00:54:47,859
portals through different dimensional

1325
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:49,329
time-space you know

1326
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:52,150
well the abduction experiences that I

1327
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,460
studied it was Betty Andreasen and there

1328
00:54:58,589 --> 00:54:56,799
was one haunting thing that she reports

1329
00:55:00,539 --> 00:54:58,599
she was told that stuck with me ever

1330
00:55:02,490 --> 00:55:00,549
since is that she was told where the

1331
00:55:06,930 --> 00:55:02,500
human beings are the larval form of the

1332
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:06,940
greys and that stuck with me and then

1333
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:09,250
you get into the Italian friendship

1334
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:11,650
group you know that started in 1956 and

1335
00:55:19,799 --> 00:55:16,569
what through their great well the

1336
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:19,809
average or the friendship group spoke of

1337
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:22,960
a group of biological robots that

1338
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:27,089
worship technology that were feminine

1339
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:29,890
the matrix came out of was that just

1340
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:33,490
right there because and the terminator

1341
00:55:38,130 --> 00:55:35,770
you know the whole bit about the the

1342
00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:38,140
machines have taken over okay if yeah go

1343
00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:38,380
ahead

1344
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:41,700
well that's a whole other Hollywood is

1345
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,260
previewing things that are actually real

1346
00:55:48,539 --> 00:55:46,480
and and make the plausible deniability

1347
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:48,549
where you know if people see it in a

1348
00:55:51,569 --> 00:55:50,049
movie they don't think it's real but

1349
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:51,579
they actually told you something that is

1350
00:55:56,609 --> 00:55:54,640
real you know as a life even though

1351
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:56,619
Steven Spielberg's et the

1352
00:55:59,700 --> 00:55:58,089
extra-terrestrial if you look at the

1353
00:56:03,690 --> 00:55:59,710
animal bodies that they just unearthed

1354
00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:03,700
at Nazca Peru the smaller of the two

1355
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:08,200
looks just like et on the movie oh yeah

1356
00:56:12,269 --> 00:56:10,150
that was one of the things I really

1357
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:12,279
enjoyed at this conference was a tiny

1358
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:14,890
moose on and his presentation I don't

1359
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:17,710
know if he caught it catch a single

1360
00:56:24,089 --> 00:56:22,480
presentation I was so busy I did have a

1361
00:56:26,339 --> 00:56:24,099
chance that I was sick too so I was

1362
00:56:28,529 --> 00:56:26,349
trying to sleep a little bit but yeah we

1363
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,539
were doing the the wheelin and dealin in

1364
00:56:33,779 --> 00:56:31,119
the you know as usual we were all trying

1365
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:33,789
to get interviews and talk to people and

1366
00:56:43,210 --> 00:56:42,779
look at the core to it forever

1367
00:56:45,099 --> 00:56:43,220
and

1368
00:56:49,210 --> 00:56:45,109
I met sergeant Clifford stone I'm at

1369
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:49,220
George Noory I'm even saw lots of people

1370
00:56:56,260 --> 00:56:52,010
that were very fascinating to just Don

1371
00:56:59,020 --> 00:56:56,270
Schmidt yeah I'll tell you something Don

1372
00:57:01,839 --> 00:56:59,030
Schmidt is an unsung hero to me I think

1373
00:57:03,609 --> 00:57:01,849
that guy has more integrity than most of

1374
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:03,619
the guys in the field he did some really

1375
00:57:07,930 --> 00:57:06,410
amazing research on Roswell but when

1376
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:07,940
that whole Jaime miss Thawne thing

1377
00:57:14,770 --> 00:57:11,510
happened with the alien in the the case

1378
00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:14,780
you know from the 40s supposedly he went

1379
00:57:18,820 --> 00:57:16,760
on board with Jaime with that and it

1380
00:57:21,550 --> 00:57:18,830
turned out to be a falsehood okay so

1381
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:21,560
instead of trying to say hey I'm right

1382
00:57:27,849 --> 00:57:25,160
you know he basically said Jaime jumped

1383
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,859
the gun and that he made a mistake you

1384
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:29,599
know and he actually admitted to it and

1385
00:57:34,839 --> 00:57:32,359
to me that is the best thing anybody in

1386
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:34,849
UF ology do because the problem we've

1387
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,040
got is so many of these guys or ego so

1388
00:57:41,950 --> 00:57:39,440
wrapped up in what's going on that they

1389
00:57:44,620 --> 00:57:41,960
won't admit when they made a mistake you

1390
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:44,630
know and Don was he was the first one to

1391
00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:47,450
ever admit he really blew it and he

1392
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,910
apologized to the UFO community and you

1393
00:57:53,950 --> 00:57:51,680
know I have so much respect for him now

1394
00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:53,960
that I didn't have before it's amazing

1395
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:56,150
yeah what would have embarrassed myself

1396
00:58:00,490 --> 00:57:57,770
if I asked him what was really on my

1397
00:58:02,589 --> 00:58:00,500
mind I wanted to say how do you look so

1398
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:02,599
perfect all the time it's like any

1399
00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:05,839
errors in place you know he's gonna sue

1400
00:58:09,250 --> 00:58:07,430
with no wrinkles in it that's like how

1401
00:58:10,780 --> 00:58:09,260
do you do that you know so I'm really

1402
00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:10,790
glad that I didn't ask him that question

1403
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:24,140
because the probably of course well I

1404
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:26,089
hate to do this to you but we got to

1405
00:58:29,890 --> 00:58:27,290
take a break and then we'll come back

1406
00:58:31,660 --> 00:58:29,900
and we'll do another hour but I'm just

1407
00:58:33,790 --> 00:58:31,670
trying to actually get a break in here

1408
00:58:36,329 --> 00:58:33,800
from once and I want to tell everybody

1409
00:58:38,770 --> 00:58:36,339
before we hit the break though that I am

1410
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:38,780
relaunching my web site starting

1411
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:40,910
probably right before Christmas or

1412
00:58:46,180 --> 00:58:43,130
January first I'm not sure which date

1413
00:58:50,930 --> 00:58:46,190
yet but I need your help God is and I

1414
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,690
I'm just I cannot continue being on

1415
00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:56,160
radio the way I am unless I start

1416
00:59:00,980 --> 00:58:58,500
getting some a little tiny bit of money

1417
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:00,990
coming in to help me out so I'm starting

1418
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:03,359
a membership website that's start paying

1419
00:59:07,790 --> 00:59:06,030
for all the expenses for being on

1420
00:59:10,190 --> 00:59:07,800
internet and all that stuff that comes

1421
00:59:11,780 --> 00:59:10,200
with it and I don't need much a month

1422
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:11,790
but I'm hoping that you guys can afford

1423
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:13,650
three dollars a month to hear what I've

1424
00:59:21,490 --> 00:59:18,089
got to say and at that point I'm also

1425
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:21,500
going to be letting you guys in on

1426
00:59:26,930 --> 00:59:24,240
things that never have been out there

1427
00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:26,940
before I'm gonna have special special

1428
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,740
interviews that'll be on there that

1429
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:30,000
you'll be getting as a member of a

1430
00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:31,650
website so I'll tell you more about it

1431
00:59:36,109 --> 00:59:33,750
later so for right now let's hit our

1432
00:59:38,059 --> 00:59:36,119
break MJ and we'll take you out we'll be

1433
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:38,069
back here on inception radio network

1434
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:41,190
which is also being replayed over at

1435
00:59:46,790 --> 00:59:43,530
Mike bar is like night in the Midlands

1436
00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:46,800
we thank them for that okay be right

1437
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:51,720
back welcome back everyone to the

1438
00:59:55,849 --> 00:59:53,970
California MUFON radio show I'm your

1439
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,859
host Lori invented we're here on

1440
01:00:00,200 --> 00:59:58,079
inception radio network the home of the

1441
01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:00,210
most amazing app on the planet I hope

1442
01:00:06,670 --> 01:00:02,220
you guys have it and I do hope that you

1443
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,760
anybody's there you guys you know I not

1444
01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:13,200
having people in my chat room ever since

1445
01:00:18,050 --> 01:00:14,760
we got the new website things have been

1446
01:00:20,329 --> 01:00:18,060
a little quiet in there it's okay but I

1447
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,339
still show you guys I do hope that a lot

1448
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:23,040
of people show up in the chat room I'm

1449
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,569
clicking right now and the reason why is

1450
01:00:33,470 --> 01:00:29,520
because I really love to have you guys

1451
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:33,480
input the last hour of the show I'd like

1452
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:35,310
to have questions from the chat if

1453
01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:36,660
there's a lot of people in there then

1454
01:00:41,450 --> 01:00:38,760
the more questions come and and our

1455
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,460
guests get all kinds of intelligent

1456
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:43,440
questions because I'm not always one to

1457
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,200
be doing so so I really love it when you

1458
01:00:52,339 --> 01:00:48,240
guys are there especially and I gotta

1459
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:52,349
say this mr. derp huh i mr. huff and i

1460
01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:55,290
don't know where he is we can't find the

1461
01:01:00,170 --> 01:00:57,960
huff that's all there is to it and I

1462
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:00,180
also want to say to you guys that it's

1463
01:01:04,590 --> 01:01:02,970
this coming Saturday is the e on

1464
01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:04,600
December 2nd is

1465
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:07,960
our annual MUFON UFO conference I need a

1466
01:01:12,450 --> 01:01:10,240
conference I'm so tired

1467
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:12,460
it might call this so bad that I've

1468
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:14,320
taken all this dayquil so I'm a little

1469
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:17,490
little Spacey guys so here's the deal

1470
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:20,290
this Saturday is our annual MUFON

1471
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:23,050
Christmas party and it's uh we call it

1472
01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:25,330
the UFO holiday party and the green

1473
01:01:30,330 --> 01:01:29,020
alien gift exchange potluck so that's

1474
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:30,340
what we're having so if you're in

1475
01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:32,470
Northern California and you want to have

1476
01:01:36,450 --> 01:01:34,300
a great day and have a lot of fun and

1477
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:36,460
meet a lot of cool people all you got to

1478
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:40,960
do is go to MUFON Marin Sonoma dot-com

1479
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:44,170
that's MUFON think of Marin County think

1480
01:01:50,010 --> 01:01:45,550
of Sonoma County

1481
01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:50,020
so it's MUFON Marin Sonoma dot-com and

1482
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:52,060
check out the Christmas party coming up

1483
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:54,250
this Saturday and we're gonna have a

1484
01:01:58,110 --> 01:01:56,110
blast it's just gonna be a lot of fun

1485
01:01:59,790 --> 01:01:58,120
we've got a lady who is a contactee

1486
01:02:01,110 --> 01:01:59,800
that's had a couple regressions done

1487
01:02:04,170 --> 01:02:01,120
that's going to talk to you about her

1488
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:04,180
contact that'll be interesting we have a

1489
01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:06,100
guy coming in that's going to talk about

1490
01:02:10,110 --> 01:02:08,040
snake head point which is another

1491
01:02:12,090 --> 01:02:10,120
interesting place here in Northern

1492
01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:12,100
California where we believe that they're

1493
01:02:16,650 --> 01:02:14,230
having all kinds of contact but nobody

1494
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:16,660
knows about it so that would be fun and

1495
01:02:21,660 --> 01:02:18,520
then we of course will have the green

1496
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:21,670
alien gift exchange a ton of food I

1497
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:24,640
never know who might show up to do a sky

1498
01:02:29,250 --> 01:02:26,710
watch I have friends with goggles that

1499
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:29,260
show up and we just have a blast and I

1500
01:02:32,550 --> 01:02:31,240
can't you know it's it's so funny we

1501
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:32,560
start about five o'clock in the

1502
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:34,930
afternoon and I'm kicking people out you

1503
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:37,930
know 11 or 12 and they still want to go

1504
01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:39,610
to Denny's after they've eaten the

1505
01:02:44,310 --> 01:02:41,830
houses they still want to go Denny's and

1506
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:44,320
talk about UFOs so sometimes it ends

1507
01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:46,210
3:00 in the morning so we're literally

1508
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:49,150
there for like I'm there from 3 to 3 so

1509
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:51,550
a lot of times but yeah it's our best

1510
01:02:55,740 --> 01:02:53,950
party of the year a lot of cool

1511
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:55,750
information a lot of fun people show up

1512
01:03:01,590 --> 01:02:58,690
so I do hope you guys can and please

1513
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:01,600
make a night of it don't type try to try

1514
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:04,210
New York and company is the best kept

1515
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:06,370
secret for great fashion at amazing

1516
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:09,370
prices the new Holiday Collection has

1517
01:03:14,740 --> 01:03:11,150
arrived in this weekend is the

1518
01:03:17,530 --> 01:03:14,750
family sale every single thing 50% off

1519
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:17,540
from holiday party outfits that sparkle

1520
01:03:21,970 --> 01:03:19,370
to hundreds of spectacular gifts

1521
01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:21,980
starting at $5 they have something for

1522
01:03:26,410 --> 01:03:24,140
everyone including new arrivals from

1523
01:03:29,380 --> 01:03:26,420
their exclusive celebrity brands from

1524
01:03:30,820 --> 01:03:29,390
Ava Mendes and Gabrielle Union hurry and

1525
01:03:33,250 --> 01:03:30,830
check out the best deals of the year

1526
01:03:36,010 --> 01:03:33,260
from New York and company of home you

1527
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:36,020
know I just tell people if you've got a

1528
01:03:40,780 --> 01:03:39,050
little money saved up there is a motel 6

1529
01:03:43,690 --> 01:03:40,790
up the street there is a Best Western

1530
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:43,700
right down the corner I mean doesn't

1531
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:45,680
cost that much of two of you get a room

1532
01:03:50,380 --> 01:03:48,170
together and just need to have a great

1533
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:50,390
time in that way you don't have to try

1534
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:52,730
to drive home that day we have lots of

1535
01:03:56,410 --> 01:03:54,290
great places for breakfast the next

1536
01:03:59,410 --> 01:03:56,420
morning so yeah it's good just have a

1537
01:04:01,000 --> 01:03:59,420
good old you know just given us make it

1538
01:04:02,770 --> 01:04:01,010
a Saturday night into Sunday afternoon

1539
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:02,780
events so there you go

1540
01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:04,880
any I do hope you guys can make it go to

1541
01:04:10,930 --> 01:04:08,150
mufon Marin Sonoma comm and it's right

1542
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:10,940
there under the next meeting so you'll

1543
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:14,090
find it all right so and also don't

1544
01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:16,250
forget if you're mufon people aren't

1545
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:18,440
doing what I do for my MUFON people here

1546
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:20,330
in Northern California you guys get on

1547
01:04:25,660 --> 01:04:23,090
your state directors and you say why

1548
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:25,670
can't you guys be like DeLorean okay I

1549
01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:30,170
want you to say that I want Jen Hardison

1550
01:04:34,930 --> 01:04:31,910
to start getting phone calls that say

1551
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:34,940
Laurieann said that we gotta have

1552
01:04:38,650 --> 01:04:36,710
meetings every month we gotta have

1553
01:04:41,740 --> 01:04:38,660
speakers and we got to have a big party

1554
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:41,750
every Christmas okay and a big sky watch

1555
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:43,850
in July for fourth of July we have an

1556
01:04:48,250 --> 01:04:45,920
annual sky watch that is so much fun and

1557
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:48,260
we can go camping and we go actually

1558
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:50,720
this year we stated an Indian casino and

1559
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:52,490
I gambled all night it was so much fun

1560
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:56,000
yeah the point is I try to make it so

1561
01:05:00,730 --> 01:04:58,130
that every month is a party and every

1562
01:05:02,530 --> 01:05:00,740
July in December we have something

1563
01:05:04,660 --> 01:05:02,540
really fun to look forward to do and I

1564
01:05:08,860 --> 01:05:04,670
think everybody who has these meetings

1565
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:08,870
should be doing it too so anyhow that's

1566
01:05:12,850 --> 01:05:10,730
my opinion and I just want you guys to

1567
01:05:14,650 --> 01:05:12,860
start radley move funds cage a little

1568
01:05:17,110 --> 01:05:14,660
bit it's good for them to get rattled as

1569
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:17,120
Jen says I'm one of the biggest Rattlers

1570
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:20,210
they've got it so I want you guys to

1571
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:22,490
invoke my name and rattle their cages

1572
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:24,450
and get them to have meetings

1573
01:05:29,150 --> 01:05:26,250
everywhere all over the United States

1574
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:29,160
every month and and have you know a lot

1575
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:31,020
of people show up and have a lot of cool

1576
01:05:35,089 --> 01:05:33,180
information there and who knows maybe

1577
01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:35,099
the Florida people could have our guest

1578
01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:37,470
tonight speak it has go at their event

1579
01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:40,020
every month so that'd be cool so anyhow

1580
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:41,460
you guys get the drift you know what I'm

1581
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:43,920
trying to say be with like mine be with

1582
01:05:48,170 --> 01:05:46,650
like people and share your experience

1583
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:48,180
doesn't have a good time doing so

1584
01:05:52,099 --> 01:05:50,130
because trust me folks these are your

1585
01:05:54,290 --> 01:05:52,109
real family they're your real spiritual

1586
01:05:56,690 --> 01:05:54,300
family or you wouldn't be finding them

1587
01:05:57,770 --> 01:05:56,700
it's that easy it's that simple okay

1588
01:06:02,030 --> 01:05:57,780
thanks a lot

1589
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:02,040
okay MUFON and UFO n.com yeah keep

1590
01:06:07,310 --> 01:06:04,290
pointing stay org viscom so check it out

1591
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:07,320
MUFON comm check out my MUFON website

1592
01:06:12,859 --> 01:06:10,410
MUFON we're in Sonoma comm all right

1593
01:06:17,089 --> 01:06:12,869
Russell were back done my advertising

1594
01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:17,099
deeds for the night good great okay so

1595
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,990
when we last left off we were talking

1596
01:06:24,380 --> 01:06:21,359
about basically consciousness in your

1597
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:24,390
book and the title of your book was a

1598
01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:26,250
singularity and we gotten to the point

1599
01:06:31,099 --> 01:06:28,680
where we just I decided that you know

1600
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:31,109
it's somewhere in the future maybe that

1601
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:32,910
we're all gonna end up being doing what

1602
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:36,329
we're doing now I know it sounds kind of

1603
01:06:40,010 --> 01:06:37,950
backwards but it really that's my

1604
01:06:44,270 --> 01:06:40,020
opinion what do you think about what the

1605
01:06:46,730 --> 01:06:44,280
singularity will bring for us well it

1606
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:46,740
may sound a little strange but I am a

1607
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:49,050
believer in a lot of what Nikola Tesla

1608
01:06:53,660 --> 01:06:52,050
said that he was attempting to do and

1609
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:53,670
one of the things he did was build a

1610
01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:56,930
spirit radio and he tried to communicate

1611
01:07:02,390 --> 01:06:59,400
electronically with people who were just

1612
01:07:05,030 --> 01:07:02,400
incarnate and I believe that's one of

1613
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:05,040
the technologies that will come about as

1614
01:07:09,410 --> 01:07:07,680
a result of the singularity coming which

1615
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:09,420
is predicted to occur somewhere between

1616
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:12,480
2045 and 2080 according to Kurzweil and

1617
01:07:17,660 --> 01:07:14,910
some of the other futurists and I do

1618
01:07:20,809 --> 01:07:17,670
think that the veil will come down and

1619
01:07:22,579 --> 01:07:20,819
the people who are in physical bodies

1620
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:22,589
will be able to communicate freely with

1621
01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:24,900
people who are not in physical bodies

1622
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:26,430
and some sort of an electronic

1623
01:07:31,490 --> 01:07:29,609
consciousness interface and there's

1624
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:31,500
things that are going to come down the

1625
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:34,640
pike here that are so fantastic that

1626
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:36,810
they're almost laughable if you talk

1627
01:07:41,150 --> 01:07:37,510
about

1628
01:07:43,590 --> 01:07:41,160
because we're just moving into

1629
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:43,600
nanotechnology and then down from that

1630
01:07:50,010 --> 01:07:46,930
is Pico technology and then femto

1631
01:07:51,390 --> 01:07:50,020
technology which is actually a technical

1632
01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:51,400
definition of the physical universe

1633
01:07:57,359 --> 01:07:54,760
because ed fredkin one of the early AI

1634
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,369
experts always thought that this

1635
01:08:01,859 --> 01:07:59,440
physical universe was a computational

1636
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:01,869
mechanism that somebody was using to

1637
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:04,090
solve a problem he didn't have he had

1638
01:08:09,030 --> 01:08:05,710
some speculations and what the problems

1639
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:09,040
were but we don't really know and by

1640
01:08:13,410 --> 01:08:11,170
definition femto technology is a

1641
01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:13,420
computing device that uses subatomic

1642
01:08:19,229 --> 01:08:16,900
particles to make calculations and if

1643
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:19,239
you get into any of Michiyo Kaku stuff

1644
01:08:22,410 --> 01:08:21,400
like parallel worlds or hyperspace or

1645
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:22,420
the future of the mind

1646
01:08:26,999 --> 01:08:24,730
he goes into a lot of detail about why

1647
01:08:29,999 --> 01:08:27,009
this universe cannot possibly be a

1648
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:30,009
random accident unless there's the

1649
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,350
multiverse theory is real and we just

1650
01:08:36,420 --> 01:08:34,000
happened to be in a random universe that

1651
01:08:38,490 --> 01:08:36,430
got everything right but he had six

1652
01:08:42,539 --> 01:08:38,500
specific parameters that he went into

1653
01:08:46,499 --> 01:08:42,549
epsilon Omega lambda n D and Q we can go

1654
01:09:02,340 --> 01:08:46,509
into what those are if you like I'd love

1655
01:09:04,380 --> 01:09:02,350
to hear that so yeah you know he's a

1656
01:09:07,579 --> 01:09:04,390
very interesting guy but I have a really

1657
01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:07,589
hard time I'd rather listen to you

1658
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:13,270
explain it and I got a picture taken

1659
01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:15,250
with a poster of him the other day at

1660
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:27,269
okay he's still the first parameter that

1661
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:30,640
Michiyo talks about is a figure called

1662
01:09:34,740 --> 01:09:33,040
epsilon and this represents the relative

1663
01:09:37,710 --> 01:09:34,750
amount of hydrogen that converts to

1664
01:09:39,870 --> 01:09:37,720
helium via the fusion process because if

1665
01:09:42,269 --> 01:09:39,880
epsilon was originally set at the Big

1666
01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:42,279
Bang just a fraction less than what it

1667
01:09:47,370 --> 01:09:44,920
was the nuclear binding force would have

1668
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:47,380
been too weak for protons and neutrons

1669
01:09:51,260 --> 01:09:49,930
to bind and none of the heavier elements

1670
01:09:53,750 --> 01:09:51,270
that are necessary for life would

1671
01:09:55,790 --> 01:09:53,760
formed if epsilon was just a little bit

1672
01:09:57,290 --> 01:09:55,800
higher no hydrogen would have survived

1673
01:10:00,680 --> 01:09:57,300
the Big Bang and those stars would have

1674
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:00,690
formed n represents the strength of the

1675
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:02,640
electric force divided by the strength

1676
01:10:07,610 --> 01:10:05,280
of gravity if gravity was set a bit

1677
01:10:09,770 --> 01:10:07,620
weaker than no atomic fusion what do

1678
01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:09,780
they were taking place matter would have

1679
01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,420
just been swung out into outer space if

1680
01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:14,340
gravity was said just a bit stronger

1681
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:16,140
nuclear field would have burned up too

1682
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:16,560
quickly

1683
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:19,410
so galaxies would have formed rapidly in

1684
01:10:24,650 --> 01:10:22,560
stars would have collided Omega is the

1685
01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:24,660
relative density of the universe if the

1686
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:26,700
relative density was slightly smaller

1687
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:28,860
the new universe would have expanded and

1688
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:31,350
cooled too fast if omega had been any

1689
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:32,820
larger of the universe would have

1690
01:10:37,010 --> 01:10:34,800
prematurely collapse before life even

1691
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:37,020
had a chance to begin then lambda

1692
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:38,730
represents the cosmological constant

1693
01:10:43,850 --> 01:10:41,280
that determined the acceleration of the

1694
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:43,860
universe expansion if lambda had been

1695
01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:45,810
set just a little bit weaker just a tiny

1696
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:48,150
tiny decimal point weaker the universe

1697
01:10:52,460 --> 01:10:50,250
would have already collapsed if lambda

1698
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:52,470
had been set just a fraction stronger

1699
01:10:56,210 --> 01:10:54,000
the universe would have already blown

1700
01:10:58,430 --> 01:10:56,220
apart and then Q represents the

1701
01:11:01,190 --> 01:10:58,440
amplitude of the irregularities of the

1702
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:01,200
Cosmic Microwave Background if Q was too

1703
01:11:05,630 --> 01:11:03,090
small the universe would have remained a

1704
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:05,640
lifeless a modulus mass of gas and dust

1705
01:11:09,740 --> 01:11:08,400
if Q was too large all matter in the

1706
01:11:12,350 --> 01:11:09,750
universe would have already condensed

1707
01:11:14,420 --> 01:11:12,360
into black holes and then D represents

1708
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:14,430
the actual number of spatial dimensions

1709
01:11:19,580 --> 01:11:17,610
that the universe has composed of and if

1710
01:11:22,250 --> 01:11:19,590
any one of these factors was altered at

1711
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:22,260
the Big Bang by as little as one part in

1712
01:11:26,660 --> 01:11:24,450
a million billion we would not be having

1713
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:26,670
this conversation right now no life

1714
01:11:30,260 --> 01:11:28,530
would exist in the universe and the

1715
01:11:33,650 --> 01:11:30,270
cosmos would be a chaotic mass of

1716
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:33,660
nothing so any one of those factors that

1717
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:36,810
he mentions would be the odds of getting

1718
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:38,850
it correct and holding steady for

1719
01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:41,390
billions of years is astronomically

1720
01:11:47,770 --> 01:11:44,280
impossible but the idea of getting all

1721
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:47,780
six of these parameters exactly correct

1722
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:51,120
it just it goes beyond the you know

1723
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:53,010
gravel feasibility that this is a random

1724
01:11:59,480 --> 01:11:58,170
universe so yeah yeah go ahead because I

1725
01:12:02,180 --> 01:11:59,490
know where you're going but go ahead

1726
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:02,190
because this part I mean there's there's

1727
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:04,290
only two possibilities the

1728
01:12:08,570 --> 01:12:06,930
is an intentionally fabricated work on

1729
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,580
femto technology using subatomic

1730
01:12:12,620 --> 01:12:10,800
particles to make calculations to solve

1731
01:12:15,740 --> 01:12:12,630
an unknown problem that we probably

1732
01:12:18,620 --> 01:12:15,750
can't even wrap our mind around or we

1733
01:12:21,470 --> 01:12:18,630
live in a true random multiverse and we

1734
01:12:23,210 --> 01:12:21,480
just happen to be lucky enough to be in

1735
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:23,220
the one that accidentally got it right

1736
01:12:29,180 --> 01:12:26,610
one of those two situations is true well

1737
01:12:29,570 --> 01:12:29,190
that's true and which one would you bet

1738
01:12:44,740 --> 01:12:29,580
on

1739
01:12:48,620 --> 01:12:44,750
would determine who they would attribute

1740
01:12:50,660 --> 01:12:48,630
the creation to there's a new group of

1741
01:12:52,010 --> 01:12:50,670
hypothetical aliens called the hyper

1742
01:12:54,980 --> 01:12:52,020
Burson's I don't know if you ever heard

1743
01:12:56,900 --> 01:12:54,990
of those or not but yeah explain this

1744
01:12:58,580 --> 01:12:56,910
too because now mr. laughing the Dare

1745
01:13:00,830 --> 01:12:58,590
they're like they don't look like super

1746
01:13:04,460 --> 01:13:00,840
chickens or anything through the air the

1747
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,470
blow he theorizes a little bit of them

1748
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:06,480
and the physics of the impossible or one

1749
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,450
of his books we're okay he speculates

1750
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:11,760
he's a smart guy and he speculates that

1751
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:13,890
in a previous realm I don't know if you

1752
01:13:18,620 --> 01:13:15,330
want to call it a universe or just a

1753
01:13:21,340 --> 01:13:18,630
previous realm after eons of time and

1754
01:13:23,540 --> 01:13:21,350
this realm was dying the pinnacle of

1755
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,550
intelligence that evolved in that

1756
01:13:29,060 --> 01:13:26,880
universe tried to save themselves by in

1757
01:13:30,980 --> 01:13:29,070
creating a new universe and embedding

1758
01:13:32,660 --> 01:13:30,990
themselves in it somehow and you've got

1759
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:32,670
to figure out so these this is a

1760
01:13:36,710 --> 01:13:34,770
hypothetical group of creator aliens

1761
01:13:39,950 --> 01:13:36,720
that they refer to as hyper Versalles

1762
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:39,960
and we don't really know you know the

1763
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:43,170
identity we can only speculate theorize

1764
01:13:48,110 --> 01:13:45,330
about it but we can go so far as to

1765
01:13:51,170 --> 01:13:48,120
scientifically prove beyond a reasonable

1766
01:13:53,300 --> 01:13:51,180
doubt that this is a intentional

1767
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:53,310
computer-like fabrication that we're

1768
01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:56,610
embedded into but we can't really

1769
01:14:01,460 --> 01:13:59,460
identify unless you just fall upon your

1770
01:14:06,170 --> 01:14:01,470
personal beliefs you know of the

1771
01:14:07,790 --> 01:14:06,180
identity or ultimate purposes of who

1772
01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:07,800
they are and why they're doing what

1773
01:14:12,380 --> 01:14:10,590
they're doing right right well okay now

1774
01:14:15,050 --> 01:14:12,390
I'm gonna just throw something in here

1775
01:14:17,909 --> 01:14:15,060
what if we're like a sim simulation and

1776
01:14:22,889 --> 01:14:17,919
we are we are actually running

1777
01:14:25,139 --> 01:14:22,899
the sims get back to our original

1778
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:25,149
greatness that we had in the previous

1779
01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:27,489
universe you know it may very well be

1780
01:14:31,139 --> 01:14:29,320
that the only way that we could survive

1781
01:14:32,879 --> 01:14:31,149
is to come into the universe from the

1782
01:14:34,830 --> 01:14:32,889
microscopic level up go through the

1783
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:34,840
whole process of evolution cheap

1784
01:14:38,489 --> 01:14:37,090
technological singularity merge our

1785
01:14:41,089 --> 01:14:38,499
consciousness with technology and

1786
01:14:45,629 --> 01:14:41,099
transcend yep exactly

1787
01:14:48,569 --> 01:14:45,639
and that becomes a torrid of information

1788
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:48,579
that continually replicates itself the

1789
01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:51,130
nice thing about it is it's so wide open

1790
01:14:55,649 --> 01:14:53,409
I mean if you had gone back in Roman

1791
01:14:57,689 --> 01:14:55,659
times and talked to a Roman soldier and

1792
01:14:59,429 --> 01:14:57,699
tried to explain him what flying saucers

1793
01:15:02,219 --> 01:14:59,439
are what the funny lights in the sky

1794
01:15:04,679 --> 01:15:02,229
that they all see you know he wouldn't

1795
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:04,689
have had any frame of reference or

1796
01:15:09,449 --> 01:15:07,510
concept and we may be in not too much

1797
01:15:12,449 --> 01:15:09,459
farther along than the Roman soldier

1798
01:15:14,639 --> 01:15:12,459
because right now a lot of people are

1799
01:15:16,729 --> 01:15:14,649
seeing you know the orbs the lights in

1800
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:16,739
the sky the plasma phenomena is

1801
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:18,729
spacecraft from other planets okay

1802
01:15:25,949 --> 01:15:23,679
that's our paradigm which that's not

1803
01:15:28,259 --> 01:15:25,959
what I believe and a lot of people have

1804
01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:28,269
been in the UFO field for a very long

1805
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:31,630
time but we are all starting we all know

1806
01:15:34,620 --> 01:15:33,340
I mean then this goes back to the

1807
01:15:36,689 --> 01:15:34,630
Jacques Vallee this goes back to

1808
01:15:39,509 --> 01:15:36,699
everybody in the beginning we all know

1809
01:15:42,270 --> 01:15:39,519
they're interdimensional we're not sure

1810
01:15:44,339 --> 01:15:42,280
there may be a species or two that gets

1811
01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:44,349
here from another place but if they are

1812
01:15:47,850 --> 01:15:46,360
there transversing wormholes to get here

1813
01:15:50,639 --> 01:15:47,860
because there's no freaking way

1814
01:15:52,139 --> 01:15:50,649
anybody's building a solid mass ship and

1815
01:15:53,459 --> 01:15:52,149
going through all the radiation that's

1816
01:15:57,029 --> 01:15:53,469
out there and all the different things

1817
01:16:00,810 --> 01:15:57,039
you've got to bypass unless their ship

1818
01:16:04,350 --> 01:16:00,820
is made out of an organic type of metal

1819
01:16:07,139 --> 01:16:04,360
that can grow to deflect whatever it is

1820
01:16:11,449 --> 01:16:07,149
that it encounters and change itself to

1821
01:16:14,609 --> 01:16:11,459
morph into its own shielding that is

1822
01:16:16,350 --> 01:16:14,619
yeah this is the skeptics are right you

1823
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:16,360
can't get here from there in the way

1824
01:16:21,299 --> 01:16:19,209
that they're thinking right you know if

1825
01:16:22,919 --> 01:16:21,309
you go through ordinary space-time I

1826
01:16:24,810 --> 01:16:22,929
don't care if you travel the speed of

1827
01:16:26,370 --> 01:16:24,820
light or whatever going to another

1828
01:16:29,909 --> 01:16:26,380
galaxy that's a hundred million light

1829
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:29,919
years away is not feasible at all you've

1830
01:16:34,980 --> 01:16:31,660
got to find a way of slide out of

1831
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:34,990
frequency band into higher realm where

1832
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:37,810
everything becomes non-local and you can

1833
01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:40,030
go anywhere in the physical universe you

1834
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:41,140
want there's probably even a

1835
01:16:46,170 --> 01:16:43,690
mathematical formula associated with

1836
01:16:48,750 --> 01:16:46,180
every time and they replace you know the

1837
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:48,760
coordinates get been you materialize in

1838
01:16:52,590 --> 01:16:50,530
that realm and then the people on that

1839
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:52,600
planet look up you know see funny lights

1840
01:17:02,130 --> 01:16:58,810
in the sky you brought up something very

1841
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:02,140
interesting just now were you always

1842
01:17:06,450 --> 01:17:04,180
this smart Russell or is this something

1843
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:06,460
that you feel has happened to you

1844
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:10,000
because of your experiences I feel it's

1845
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:13,210
definitely whatever it is that I am

1846
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:16,030
right now is a direct byproduct of what

1847
01:17:20,370 --> 01:17:17,950
happened in 2009 with my near-death

1848
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:20,380
experience because like I said I never

1849
01:17:24,660 --> 01:17:22,690
even was interested in reading books so

1850
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:24,670
that was a goofball I was just a regular

1851
01:17:30,780 --> 01:17:26,890
bozo on the bus I didn't have a clue as

1852
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:30,790
to what anything any of this and all of

1853
01:17:35,490 --> 01:17:34,000
this has come about since 2009 and and I

1854
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:35,500
just can't help but think that the

1855
01:17:39,390 --> 01:17:37,510
immersion end of the material and the

1856
01:17:41,220 --> 01:17:39,400
assimilation of you know some of the

1857
01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:41,230
little pieces of the puzzle the bigger

1858
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:43,240
parts the layers of the onion that are

1859
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:45,550
shedding and the people that I'm meeting

1860
01:17:49,650 --> 01:17:47,710
the conversations I'm having it's just

1861
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:49,660
like a magic kaleidoscope that's

1862
01:17:55,260 --> 01:17:51,850
unfolding before my eyes and I'm just

1863
01:17:57,630 --> 01:17:55,270
constantly amazed at it yeah yeah it's

1864
01:17:59,610 --> 01:17:57,640
very usually I see I've had I had the

1865
01:18:02,670 --> 01:17:59,620
same thing happened in 2009 I almost

1866
01:18:04,890 --> 01:18:02,680
died and my whole life changed now I had

1867
01:18:07,050 --> 01:18:04,900
been very psychic my entire life and

1868
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:07,060
very much into all the paranormal and

1869
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:09,640
everything very open to it for my entire

1870
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:12,370
existence but when I got really sick and

1871
01:18:16,650 --> 01:18:14,350
almost died it was like something took

1872
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:16,660
ahold of me and started directing my

1873
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:19,510
life do you feel that that happened to

1874
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:20,530
you as well

1875
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:22,930
you feel like you've tapped into maybe a

1876
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:25,210
God particle that kind of like is saying

1877
01:18:32,540 --> 01:18:27,970
okay yeah this is all a bowl of cherries

1878
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:32,550
here but you now have a purpose yes

1879
01:18:38,190 --> 01:18:36,370
there's there's such a drastic change or

1880
01:18:40,590 --> 01:18:38,200
personality and John keel goes into a

1881
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:40,600
lot of detail about this whole cosmic

1882
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:42,850
illumination thing it happened to him

1883
01:18:47,130 --> 01:18:44,890
17 years old I was really surprised that

1884
01:18:49,730 --> 01:18:47,140
he came out and said that's right god I

1885
01:18:52,170 --> 01:18:49,740
forgot all about that I keep thinking of

1886
01:18:54,660 --> 01:18:52,180
guy Rupp Blade Runner because he's my

1887
01:18:56,130 --> 01:18:54,670
favorite philip k dick and i he had an

1888
01:19:00,330 --> 01:18:56,140
experience to that i'm sure you know

1889
01:19:02,250 --> 01:19:00,340
what right vibe right yes you have the

1890
01:19:04,050 --> 01:19:02,260
little orb that come through into the

1891
01:19:06,150 --> 01:19:04,060
room and floated around like a moth and

1892
01:19:11,250 --> 01:19:06,160
landed on his forehead and make changes

1893
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:11,260
inside his psyche yeah yeah yeah it's

1894
01:19:15,870 --> 01:19:13,870
this is this is an ongoing operation

1895
01:19:20,130 --> 01:19:15,880
that's happening everyday to millions of

1896
01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:20,140
people and we're being worked with okay

1897
01:19:25,980 --> 01:19:24,190
tinkered with worked with something you

1898
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:25,990
know we're we're morphing and changing

1899
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:29,470
on a daily basis according to this

1900
01:19:35,070 --> 01:19:31,450
phenomena whatever intelligence is

1901
01:19:36,990 --> 01:19:35,080
behind it is pretty magnificent and like

1902
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:37,000
I said before it they know what they're

1903
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:38,530
doing you know they know human beings

1904
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:42,010
very well and out of you know take them

1905
01:19:48,270 --> 01:19:45,280
where they want to go yeah yeah well now

1906
01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:48,280
does your book address the evil that's

1907
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:50,200
going on on this planet because I'll

1908
01:19:56,220 --> 01:19:53,260
tell you what happened to me yes yeah

1909
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:56,230
when I got sick I got before I got sick

1910
01:20:00,990 --> 01:19:58,930
though I was a hippie dippie everybody

1911
01:20:05,730 --> 01:20:01,000
loves everybody in the world is all

1912
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:05,740
kumbaya and I really and I was very open

1913
01:20:10,050 --> 01:20:07,600
to the psychic stuff I read you know i

1914
01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:10,060
philip k dick i was in the UFOs and

1915
01:20:14,730 --> 01:20:11,590
aliens and you know i was into

1916
01:20:17,310 --> 01:20:14,740
everything right ghosts you name it but

1917
01:20:19,620 --> 01:20:17,320
i always thought we created our own hell

1918
01:20:23,790 --> 01:20:19,630
and there was no evil that people

1919
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:23,800
created it okay but when i got sick and

1920
01:20:28,380 --> 01:20:25,930
came out of it it changed my whole it

1921
01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:28,390
rocked my world on that one because it

1922
01:20:32,010 --> 01:20:30,670
really proved to me that there is evil

1923
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:32,020
outside of humans

1924
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:34,960
that's manipulating this planet and us

1925
01:20:39,570 --> 01:20:38,050
and i and i flipped out I really did

1926
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:39,580
flip out that was probably my biggest

1927
01:20:44,370 --> 01:20:42,010
awakening in my entire life was to the

1928
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:44,380
fact that there is evil out there well

1929
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:46,330
personally I think that's one of the

1930
01:20:52,350 --> 01:20:49,450
reasons why a decision was made to keep

1931
01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:52,360
a lid on a lot of this because the scope

1932
01:20:56,129 --> 01:20:55,450
of it is so great and so potentially a

1933
01:20:57,509 --> 01:20:56,139
stay

1934
01:21:00,419 --> 01:20:57,519
pounding and frightening at the same

1935
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:00,429
time that they just didn't think that

1936
01:21:04,589 --> 01:21:02,050
the general public could handle it and

1937
01:21:07,469 --> 01:21:04,599
all you have to do is look into some of

1938
01:21:10,139 --> 01:21:07,479
the cases one in particular in Brazil at

1939
01:21:11,819 --> 01:21:10,149
a dam of a case of human mutilation

1940
01:21:16,049 --> 01:21:11,829
where they were actually tissue

1941
01:21:18,689 --> 01:21:16,059
harvested exactly like the bovine tissue

1942
01:21:22,819 --> 01:21:18,699
harvesting was starting in about 1965

1943
01:21:25,850 --> 01:21:22,829
and going for about 15 years strong and

1944
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:25,860
somebody out there needs tons of blood

1945
01:21:36,509 --> 01:21:30,880
because these cows are found this insane

1946
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:36,519
grenaded yeah and the same thing with

1947
01:21:41,129 --> 01:21:38,110
the occasional cases of human

1948
01:21:42,989 --> 01:21:41,139
mutilations nobody really knows and and

1949
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:42,999
what that strike me it was the first

1950
01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:44,530
time I heard about that I was watching

1951
01:21:49,589 --> 01:21:47,079
the video by Linda Moulton Howe a lean

1952
01:21:51,509 --> 01:21:49,599
harvest and she added all these cattle

1953
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:51,519
mutilations and then the more you get

1954
01:21:55,709 --> 01:21:54,249
into you it just hits you it's like this

1955
01:21:57,569 --> 01:21:55,719
is being done but I creatures from outer

1956
01:22:00,089 --> 01:21:57,579
space this is not a human endeavor and

1957
01:22:02,370 --> 01:22:00,099
then it switched into these human cases

1958
01:22:04,020 --> 01:22:02,380
and I felt like the blood and my face

1959
01:22:07,589 --> 01:22:04,030
just went right down straight to my feet

1960
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:07,599
and I went oh no and it's like yes there

1961
01:22:14,339 --> 01:22:10,090
there is a side of you apology that's

1962
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:14,349
extremely frightening and you wonder you

1963
01:22:17,609 --> 01:22:16,030
know could a human being actually do

1964
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:17,619
that to another person the vital

1965
01:22:21,569 --> 01:22:19,449
reactions show that this guy was alive

1966
01:22:22,979 --> 01:22:21,579
when this happened he has rear end cored

1967
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:22,989
out his insides pulled out a little

1968
01:22:29,009 --> 01:22:25,689
cookie cutter holes and his armpits you

1969
01:22:31,589 --> 01:22:29,019
know that is to me when I look at that

1970
01:22:37,409 --> 01:22:31,599
that is artificial intelligence without

1971
01:22:40,379 --> 01:22:37,419
any feelings whatsoever for it could be

1972
01:22:42,569 --> 01:22:40,389
another species that's in cotton this

1973
01:22:45,949 --> 01:22:42,579
matrix along with this that's doing this

1974
01:22:48,449 --> 01:22:45,959
that doesn't have any emotional you know

1975
01:22:50,609 --> 01:22:48,459
capability and you know that's what

1976
01:22:53,129 --> 01:22:50,619
makes humans very unique that my angels

1977
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:53,139
have told me this they've said humans

1978
01:22:58,009 --> 01:22:55,570
are so unique you guys have if they say

1979
01:23:01,290 --> 01:22:58,019
you have no idea how amazing you are

1980
01:23:03,719 --> 01:23:01,300
because there's so many apparently so

1981
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:03,729
many other species out there that don't

1982
01:23:08,219 --> 01:23:06,249
even have feelings they don't have art

1983
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:08,229
they don't have love they just don't

1984
01:23:11,939 --> 01:23:09,610
have you

1985
01:23:14,340 --> 01:23:11,949
we're one step away from God in reality

1986
01:23:18,510 --> 01:23:14,350
I'm starting to believe that more and

1987
01:23:20,729 --> 01:23:18,520
more each day because if there is a you

1988
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:20,739
know there is a God or an AI system or

1989
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:23,290
whatever that runs this place they have

1990
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,030
to have all that because the place I

1991
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:27,760
went to was so full of love there was

1992
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:29,920
nothing else that could have there was

1993
01:23:35,580 --> 01:23:32,650
no evil that could get into it it was so

1994
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:35,590
full of love and I realized in that

1995
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:40,210
moment that we are so close to that we

1996
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:43,030
are God's - we are our higher selves

1997
01:23:47,879 --> 01:23:44,850
where all of that you know we're just

1998
01:23:51,180 --> 01:23:47,889
we're amazing creatures and my angels

1999
01:23:52,649 --> 01:23:51,190
won't lie to me about that I mean if I

2000
01:23:53,879 --> 01:23:52,659
was a slug and I didn't have any

2001
01:23:55,620 --> 01:23:53,889
feelings I think they just probably

2002
01:23:57,959 --> 01:23:55,630
helped me along you know they wouldn't

2003
01:24:01,020 --> 01:23:57,969
have told me this but they told me that

2004
01:24:02,850 --> 01:24:01,030
for a reason it must be because I need

2005
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:02,860
to tell you guys and and you know

2006
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:04,480
whoever was out there listening to the

2007
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:06,880
show tonight you know because it's super

2008
01:24:11,310 --> 01:24:08,650
important that we understand that we are

2009
01:24:22,260 --> 01:24:11,320
you know I have you been watching people

2010
01:24:24,570 --> 01:24:22,270
from Earth everybody loves him he's like

2011
01:24:30,030 --> 01:24:24,580
the favorite he's that he's the runaway

2012
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:30,040
character of the show I swear to god he

2013
01:24:36,810 --> 01:24:32,080
modeled after dr. evil with Austin

2014
01:24:38,189 --> 01:24:36,820
Powers because he just acts like trying

2015
01:24:40,649 --> 01:24:38,199
to run the world from the spaceship

2016
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,659
that's a great show it is a great show

2017
01:24:44,370 --> 01:24:42,400
but I love that one thing they do they

2018
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:44,380
tell each one to contact these you're

2019
01:24:49,890 --> 01:24:47,350
special right and that is the one thing

2020
01:24:51,899 --> 01:24:49,900
that all the contact ease that when they

2021
01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:51,909
get lost in the fact that they are

2022
01:24:56,430 --> 01:24:54,760
special that we always Alayna I laugh I

2023
01:25:02,340 --> 01:24:56,440
always go blame the aliens for making

2024
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:02,350
you think you're special you know I'm

2025
01:25:06,180 --> 01:25:04,210
just gonna say cuz we're not we're just

2026
01:25:07,950 --> 01:25:06,190
like everybody you know all the contact

2027
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:07,960
these are just like everybody else you

2028
01:25:13,979 --> 01:25:10,960
know and but there is this whole side

2029
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:13,989
that the UFO community it likes to

2030
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:15,520
perpetuate I don't know if you've run

2031
01:25:20,129 --> 01:25:18,250
across it yet you may not have it's just

2032
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:20,139
that a lot of the contact these really

2033
01:25:23,129 --> 01:25:21,760
do think they are special and they're

2034
01:25:23,609 --> 01:25:23,139
better than everybody else because

2035
01:25:26,609 --> 01:25:23,619
they're

2036
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:26,619
contact and it's a little freaky and a

2037
01:25:32,850 --> 01:25:30,610
little weird but it does happen so you

2038
01:25:36,779 --> 01:25:32,860
know I don't know if you met you know

2039
01:25:38,909 --> 01:25:36,789
people like that or not but it's one of

2040
01:25:41,129 --> 01:25:38,919
the really cool things about John keels

2041
01:25:43,319 --> 01:25:41,139
writings as he reveals some things that

2042
01:25:45,929 --> 01:25:43,329
happened amongst his circle of silent

2043
01:25:48,179 --> 01:25:45,939
contactees he always kept certain pieces

2044
01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:48,189
of information away from his book

2045
01:25:53,639 --> 01:25:51,129
because that's that way he was able to

2046
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:53,649
ascertain who was a legitimate contact

2047
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:55,570
he which he called a silent contact he

2048
01:25:59,879 --> 01:25:58,239
because for every single contact II that

2049
01:26:01,709 --> 01:25:59,889
talks about their experience there's a

2050
01:26:03,469 --> 01:26:01,719
thousand that don't want anything to do

2051
01:26:06,089 --> 01:26:03,479
with talking to anybody about it yeah

2052
01:26:08,549 --> 01:26:06,099
tell me about it those are the ones like

2053
01:26:10,500 --> 01:26:08,559
I I know three people right now that can

2054
01:26:11,850 --> 01:26:10,510
call a ship in it'll be in their front

2055
01:26:13,649 --> 01:26:11,860
yard we can all go out and have popcorn

2056
01:26:15,989 --> 01:26:13,659
and talk to the aliens if we wanted to

2057
01:26:17,369 --> 01:26:15,999
but they won't talk to anybody and they

2058
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:17,379
won't tell anybody they can do it they

2059
01:26:22,319 --> 01:26:19,209
you know I barely can get it out of them

2060
01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:22,329
right well what he discovered through

2061
01:26:25,469 --> 01:26:24,280
his circle of contacts and that he

2062
01:26:28,889 --> 01:26:25,479
reveals this in the Mothman Prophecies

2063
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:28,899
one of the books that he wrote is what

2064
01:26:34,649 --> 01:26:32,110
the intelligences that come through the

2065
01:26:36,869 --> 01:26:34,659
contact he's like to do for some reason

2066
01:26:39,089 --> 01:26:36,879
or another is give them a series of

2067
01:26:40,919 --> 01:26:39,099
little small wins little prophecies that

2068
01:26:43,259 --> 01:26:40,929
come true and it builds their confidence

2069
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:43,269
and then all of a sudden they get the

2070
01:26:46,859 --> 01:26:45,010
message of this big whopper

2071
01:26:48,389 --> 01:26:46,869
you know like on such-and-such a date a

2072
01:26:50,339 --> 01:26:48,399
thousand flying saucers are going to

2073
01:26:51,959 --> 01:26:50,349
landed they and they are so confident

2074
01:26:54,089 --> 01:26:51,969
with it because of their small successes

2075
01:26:55,770 --> 01:26:54,099
but they announce it to their flock or

2076
01:26:56,969 --> 01:26:55,780
they announce it to the world and then

2077
01:26:59,069 --> 01:26:56,979
when it doesn't come through that

2078
01:27:01,409 --> 01:26:59,079
devastates them and this has happened

2079
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:01,419
over and over and over nobody really

2080
01:27:06,449 --> 01:27:04,090
knows why but there's you were talking

2081
01:27:08,879 --> 01:27:06,459
about the evil side of the thing it's

2082
01:27:11,339 --> 01:27:08,889
like you'd have to familiarize yourself

2083
01:27:14,069 --> 01:27:11,349
with the concept of a von Neumann probe

2084
01:27:17,699 --> 01:27:14,079
a self-replicating von Neumann probe

2085
01:27:18,839 --> 01:27:17,709
because I can show that is this is the

2086
01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:18,849
first time I've heard of a

2087
01:27:23,069 --> 01:27:21,550
self-replicating von Neumann probe okay

2088
01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:23,079
well there was a physicist named John

2089
01:27:28,699 --> 01:27:26,289
von Neumann was popular back in the 50s

2090
01:27:30,899 --> 01:27:28,709
and he came up with the concept of a

2091
01:27:32,849 --> 01:27:30,909
self-replicating von Neumann probe and

2092
01:27:34,859 --> 01:27:32,859
went so far as to say the predominant

2093
01:27:36,989 --> 01:27:34,869
form of life in the universe that we

2094
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:36,999
would probably contact would be the

2095
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:37,510
sulfur

2096
01:27:43,919 --> 01:27:40,210
locating automated von Neumann probes

2097
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,929
and personally just tentatively in my

2098
01:27:49,529 --> 01:27:46,000
little speculation circle and Manimal

2099
01:27:51,509 --> 01:27:49,539
head I think long ago based on

2100
01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:51,519
everything that I've read something

2101
01:27:55,169 --> 01:27:53,320
similar to that arrived here and

2102
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:55,179
attached itself to one of the

2103
01:28:00,120 --> 01:27:57,489
vibrational planes of Earth and they

2104
01:28:02,279 --> 01:28:00,130
have an interest in us achieving this

2105
01:28:05,009 --> 01:28:02,289
technological singularity for their own

2106
01:28:06,959 --> 01:28:05,019
purposes and this was confirmed in a

2107
01:28:08,970 --> 01:28:06,969
book that I just read by spirit medium

2108
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:08,980
Paul Hammond called the Zeta primer and

2109
01:28:16,049 --> 01:28:12,489
one of the things that these Zeta to say

2110
01:28:18,649 --> 01:28:16,059
is that there are 80 races out there

2111
01:28:21,810 --> 01:28:18,659
that want to own the human astral plane

2112
01:28:23,700 --> 01:28:21,820
go figure that you know so there's

2113
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:23,710
there's aspects of this thing that are

2114
01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:25,900
so far out there that when you say it

2115
01:28:31,979 --> 01:28:28,030
you know people want to chuckle and go

2116
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:31,989
what you know and it's like there's a

2117
01:28:35,370 --> 01:28:33,760
lot going on that's just beyond our

2118
01:28:37,950 --> 01:28:35,380
comprehension and this is one of the

2119
01:28:39,779 --> 01:28:37,960
reasons I feel but what we really need

2120
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:39,789
with this technology that's going to be

2121
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:42,010
invented between now and twenty 45 we're

2122
01:28:48,689 --> 01:28:46,050
going into an exponential technological

2123
01:28:51,450 --> 01:28:48,699
expansion year to year we're no longer

2124
01:28:53,180 --> 01:28:51,460
in Moore's law where technology just

2125
01:28:57,180 --> 01:28:53,190
doubles every year we're going to

2126
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:57,190
exponential expansion you know it's over

2127
01:29:00,600 --> 01:28:58,960
everybody said there's not a single

2128
01:29:02,250 --> 01:29:00,610
person on this planet right now that

2129
01:29:04,259 --> 01:29:02,260
understands all the technology that we

2130
01:29:05,609 --> 01:29:04,269
have we've got you know this robot and

2131
01:29:07,950 --> 01:29:05,619
Saudi Arabia that's earned its

2132
01:29:11,069 --> 01:29:07,960
citizenship Bitcoin and blockchain and

2133
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:11,079
all this cryptocurrency go on and you

2134
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:12,639
know there's things in the artificial

2135
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:16,480
intelligence arena that is just a little

2136
01:29:21,450 --> 01:29:18,449
bit scary and mind-blowing right now

2137
01:29:23,250 --> 01:29:21,460
that nobody understands all of the

2138
01:29:25,410 --> 01:29:23,260
ramifications of their it's

2139
01:29:26,819 --> 01:29:25,420
compartmentalized where this person

2140
01:29:28,620 --> 01:29:26,829
might know that and this person might

2141
01:29:30,569 --> 01:29:28,630
know that but nobody really comprehends

2142
01:29:32,669 --> 01:29:30,579
the whole picture but there's an

2143
01:29:34,979 --> 01:29:32,679
intelligence out there the intelligence

2144
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:34,989
behind the UFO phenomena that does know

2145
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:37,570
all about it oh you bet and one of the

2146
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:39,489
things that I've been able to discover

2147
01:29:45,149 --> 01:29:41,710
through the contactees and through

2148
01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:45,159
psychics that I know is that if we could

2149
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:48,940
possibly get our brains to start working

2150
01:29:53,490 --> 01:29:51,130
both sides at the same time we'd have

2151
01:29:55,919 --> 01:29:53,500
much better concept of what's going on

2152
01:29:59,700 --> 01:29:55,929
around us we might lose some of our

2153
01:30:02,189 --> 01:29:59,710
humanity in the process but as far as I

2154
01:30:05,010 --> 01:30:02,199
can tell I think that whatever the

2155
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:05,020
singularity is or this AI or who's ever

2156
01:30:09,959 --> 01:30:07,330
running the show here I think they're

2157
01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:09,969
moving us in that direction because most

2158
01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:11,560
of the people I know that have had

2159
01:30:16,110 --> 01:30:13,510
near-death experiences like yourself or

2160
01:30:18,540 --> 01:30:16,120
contact like my friends or or whatever

2161
01:30:20,459 --> 01:30:18,550
it is that we go through one of the

2162
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:20,469
things they all say to me and you're

2163
01:30:25,050 --> 01:30:22,330
gonna probably say it too is yeah I

2164
01:30:28,260 --> 01:30:25,060
think I'm using more of my brain power

2165
01:30:32,129 --> 01:30:28,270
together both sides at the same time

2166
01:30:34,590 --> 01:30:32,139
than I ever did before because a I feel

2167
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:34,600
much calmer in my life I don't feel like

2168
01:30:41,340 --> 01:30:39,760
there is such emotional input and one of

2169
01:30:43,169 --> 01:30:41,350
the things they discovered and I'm going

2170
01:30:44,729 --> 01:30:43,179
to throw this out to folks there I come

2171
01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:44,739
they can all laugh at me if they want

2172
01:30:51,300 --> 01:30:46,870
but they've discovered that our entrance

2173
01:30:53,729 --> 01:30:51,310
system seems to be the biggest player

2174
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:53,739
when it comes to how the aliens control

2175
01:30:59,700 --> 01:30:56,110
us because one of the things they can

2176
01:31:02,910 --> 01:30:59,710
and cannot do can do is turn off our

2177
01:31:05,790 --> 01:31:02,920
ability to reproduce or they are wanting

2178
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:05,800
to reproduce and in doing so the

2179
01:31:09,209 --> 01:31:07,810
intricate system plays a huge part in it

2180
01:31:10,649 --> 01:31:09,219
because it's all chemicals that make

2181
01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:10,659
people want to make babies it has

2182
01:31:15,930 --> 01:31:14,080
nothing to do with making them to be

2183
01:31:17,459 --> 01:31:15,940
here on this planet you know like oh

2184
01:31:18,959 --> 01:31:17,469
I've got to have a kid because it's so

2185
01:31:21,090 --> 01:31:18,969
important that I put another one on this

2186
01:31:26,129 --> 01:31:21,100
planet if you thought about having a kid

2187
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:26,139
logically nobody would have one okay you

2188
01:31:30,629 --> 01:31:28,510
know so it's all chemicals and what

2189
01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:30,639
people don't get is if both sides of

2190
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:32,230
your brain are firing at the same time

2191
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:35,170
and you're not separated by logic and

2192
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:37,810
function then they can't just go into

2193
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:39,520
the function site and say oh let's tweak

2194
01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:41,440
up those chemicals so this woman wants

2195
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:43,420
to have a baby so badly she can't stand

2196
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:45,730
it right and then she'll go you know

2197
01:31:50,970 --> 01:31:47,770
have sex and make kid you know no matter

2198
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:50,980
what and people have no idea how they're

2199
01:31:57,629 --> 01:31:54,400
controlled by other dimensional

2200
01:32:01,470 --> 01:31:57,639
time-space when it comes to us becoming

2201
01:32:02,939 --> 01:32:01,480
the fulfilled enlightened person we're

2202
01:32:04,490 --> 01:32:02,949
supposed to become you know priests

2203
01:32:06,550 --> 01:32:04,500
don't not have sex

2204
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:06,560
reason it has all to do with how they're

2205
01:32:13,700 --> 01:32:09,690
training their body and mind to think is

2206
01:32:15,490 --> 01:32:13,710
one unit not just one side and you'll

2207
01:32:17,690 --> 01:32:15,500
find that most men that are just out

2208
01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:17,700
testosterone-driven are very one-sided

2209
01:32:25,670 --> 01:32:21,150
thinkers they are not your typical you

2210
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:25,680
know computer nerds okay and and your IQ

2211
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,810
goes down with one-sided thinking too

2212
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:29,280
and it's just it's a very interesting

2213
01:32:34,580 --> 01:32:32,250
concept I'm really starting to just dive

2214
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:34,590
into it but what do you think about that

2215
01:32:39,140 --> 01:32:36,330
do you think that they tweet with your

2216
01:32:40,580 --> 01:32:39,150
your brains at all when you were in this

2217
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:40,590
other dimensional space because you

2218
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:43,920
talked about your frequency being you

2219
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:47,760
know - derp or played with or whatever I

2220
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:50,130
know mine has but I also know that

2221
01:32:53,870 --> 01:32:51,810
they've done a little more than just

2222
01:32:56,030 --> 01:32:53,880
mess with frequency I think they truly

2223
01:32:58,430 --> 01:32:56,040
have done something to my brain

2224
01:33:01,100 --> 01:32:58,440
structure in a way that I I don't

2225
01:33:02,900 --> 01:33:01,110
understand yeah who really knows you

2226
01:33:04,970 --> 01:33:02,910
know what what they're actually capable

2227
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:04,980
of doing with the human psyche and the

2228
01:33:08,540 --> 01:33:06,690
DNA and the genetics and whatever

2229
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:08,550
there's a couple of points in history

2230
01:33:11,870 --> 01:33:10,410
that you could look to that's almost

2231
01:33:14,030 --> 01:33:11,880
certain that we better genetics

2232
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:14,040
manipulated one of them was 2 million

2233
01:33:18,370 --> 01:33:16,410
years ago when prior to Homo erectus

2234
01:33:20,390 --> 01:33:18,380
there was these little 4 foot tall

2235
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:20,400
australopithecines running around with a

2236
01:33:24,650 --> 01:33:22,560
brain the size of an orange and then all

2237
01:33:27,470 --> 01:33:24,660
of a sudden overnight you know they've

2238
01:33:29,150 --> 01:33:27,480
got a 900 to 1,200 cubic centimeter

2239
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:29,160
brain and they're about six foot tall

2240
01:33:34,970 --> 01:33:32,130
well for a million and a half years it

2241
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:34,980
seems your company is the best kept

2242
01:33:40,130 --> 01:33:37,170
secret for great fashion at amazing

2243
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:40,140
prices the new holiday collection has

2244
01:33:43,610 --> 01:33:41,610
arrived in this weekend is the

2245
01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:43,620
friends-and-family sale every single

2246
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:47,340
thing 50% off from holiday party outfits

2247
01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:49,110
that's sparkle to hundreds of

2248
01:33:53,210 --> 01:33:50,880
spectacular gifts starting at five

2249
01:33:55,220 --> 01:33:53,220
dollars they have something for everyone

2250
01:33:57,410 --> 01:33:55,230
including new arrivals from their

2251
01:34:00,170 --> 01:33:57,420
exclusive celebrity brands from Ava

2252
01:34:01,610 --> 01:34:00,180
Mendes and Gabrielle Union hurry and

2253
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:01,620
check out the best deals of the year

2254
01:34:05,780 --> 01:34:03,570
from New York and company that this

2255
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:05,790
population of homo erectus walked the

2256
01:34:08,330 --> 01:34:05,970
earth

2257
01:34:10,460 --> 01:34:08,340
pretty peacefully and they just had one

2258
01:34:12,140 --> 01:34:10,470
piece of technology which was a by face

2259
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:12,150
tax that they would throw into herds of

2260
01:34:16,700 --> 01:34:14,370
animals and that's what they did they

2261
01:34:18,590 --> 01:34:16,710
they went from Camp to camp and then

2262
01:34:22,370 --> 01:34:18,600
about 2 to 300,000

2263
01:34:24,260 --> 01:34:22,380
years ago it appears that the telomeres

2264
01:34:26,930 --> 01:34:24,270
when chromosome number two were expertly

2265
01:34:30,230 --> 01:34:26,940
infused and the overlap between Homo

2266
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:30,240
erectus and Homo sapiens was expertly

2267
01:34:36,350 --> 01:34:32,850
deleted and this had to be an

2268
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:36,360
intentional no no you have you you know

2269
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:38,370
what telomers and where this happened in

2270
01:34:44,060 --> 01:34:41,610
the DNA structure well it's just you

2271
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:44,070
know stuff that I've read Arthur David

2272
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:46,080
Horne was a biological evolution

2273
01:34:50,510 --> 01:34:47,760
instructor at the Colorado University

2274
01:34:51,980 --> 01:34:50,520
for 14 years and he quit right before

2275
01:34:54,110 --> 01:34:51,990
his retirement because in all good

2276
01:34:56,450 --> 01:34:54,120
conscience he just couldn't continue to

2277
01:34:58,910 --> 01:34:56,460
teach what he felt was a lie which was

2278
01:35:00,100 --> 01:34:58,920
just pure Darwinistic evolution and he

2279
01:35:03,020 --> 01:35:00,110
went on to write a book called

2280
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:03,030
humanity's extraterrestrial origins and

2281
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:04,770
goes into great detail about the

2282
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:07,170
deleterious oh god I can't wait to get

2283
01:35:13,130 --> 01:35:09,600
my hands on it okay yeah a little more

2284
01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:13,140
this is very dr. Arthur David Horne now

2285
01:35:18,650 --> 01:35:15,720
you were talking about before you know

2286
01:35:22,430 --> 01:35:18,660
the the what we would perceive as evil

2287
01:35:24,740 --> 01:35:22,440
I've done a lot of exploration into how

2288
01:35:27,290 --> 01:35:24,750
human culture has been thousands of

2289
01:35:30,140 --> 01:35:27,300
years ago in particular the writings of

2290
01:35:33,530 --> 01:35:30,150
Titus Levy he was a Roman historian and

2291
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:33,540
there's 520 hour volumes of it on

2292
01:35:39,770 --> 01:35:36,810
audible that I've listened to and it's

2293
01:35:41,420 --> 01:35:39,780
horrifying I mean that there's battles

2294
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:41,430
that they had just like you see in Game

2295
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:43,050
of Thrones where you know one group you

2296
01:35:46,250 --> 01:35:44,370
know comes the other group and just

2297
01:35:48,050 --> 01:35:46,260
blood and guts and people pooping

2298
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:48,060
themselves and everything well there was

2299
01:35:52,970 --> 01:35:49,920
this one battle that itís Libby talked

2300
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:52,980
about where 800 men they counted when it

2301
01:35:56,090 --> 01:35:54,810
was all said and done had dug a little

2302
01:35:58,490 --> 01:35:56,100
hole and stuck their head and it

2303
01:36:00,890 --> 01:35:58,500
suffocated themselves and then you think

2304
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:00,900
about human torture devices the bronze

2305
01:36:04,460 --> 01:36:02,850
Bowl where you get inside this bronze

2306
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:04,470
bowl and they light a fire under and

2307
01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:06,330
your skin melts off and they take

2308
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:08,490
pleasure when you reach the point of

2309
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:11,250
pain where you go through and they're

2310
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:12,930
laughing at you you know there's

2311
01:36:18,140 --> 01:36:14,970
something there's something wrong with

2312
01:36:21,710 --> 01:36:18,150
human beings and in the psyche and yes

2313
01:36:23,870 --> 01:36:21,720
it has to do with the expediting of

2314
01:36:28,370 --> 01:36:23,880
Technology because what happens when

2315
01:36:30,980 --> 01:36:28,380
you're a warring population is that each

2316
01:36:32,490 --> 01:36:30,990
side has to get better technology than

2317
01:36:34,020 --> 01:36:32,500
the other one for survival

2318
01:36:36,030 --> 01:36:34,030
you got to make a better sword you got

2319
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:36,040
to make a better furnace better catapult

2320
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:38,770
you know think of something to kill the

2321
01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:41,650
enemy and this expedites the production

2322
01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:44,140
of technology so what I gleaned from

2323
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:47,350
reading Stefan breccias book about the

2324
01:36:51,420 --> 01:36:49,690
friendship group in Italy where over a

2325
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:51,430
hundred people had contacts with these

2326
01:36:56,250 --> 01:36:53,770
humanoid aliens they gave us some

2327
01:36:59,280 --> 01:36:56,260
information about this side of the coin

2328
01:37:01,680 --> 01:36:59,290
with the biological race of biological

2329
01:37:04,740 --> 01:37:01,690
robots that worship technology I think

2330
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:04,750
that group the CTRs or the where owes as

2331
01:37:11,540 --> 01:37:06,610
they're called to be built is what it

2332
01:37:13,890 --> 01:37:11,550
means came likely from Orion and as a

2333
01:37:17,220 --> 01:37:13,900
self-replicating von Neumann probe and

2334
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:17,230
in a very unfeeling way they programmed

2335
01:37:24,270 --> 01:37:19,840
the the human race for war and conflict

2336
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:24,280
and the friendship group has empathy for

2337
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:25,360
us but they have like this

2338
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:27,760
non-interference policy that they go by

2339
01:37:33,060 --> 01:37:30,430
and even their spaceships which have

2340
01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:33,070
been validated in optical labs as being

2341
01:37:37,950 --> 01:37:35,680
real devices about 30 foot in diameter I

2342
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:37,960
mean the footage of these craft has been

2343
01:37:43,740 --> 01:37:41,250
authenticated scientifically yes

2344
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:43,750
they were invested with something called

2345
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:46,810
Lloret ax which was very similar to

2346
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:48,880
eliezer yudkowsky is coherent

2347
01:37:53,940 --> 01:37:52,090
extrapolated volition or CEV and what

2348
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:53,950
that is it's almost like a chess playing

2349
01:37:58,320 --> 01:37:56,290
program that can look several hundred

2350
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:58,330
moves into the future and select the

2351
01:38:01,740 --> 01:37:59,440
move that's going to take them to

2352
01:38:04,350 --> 01:38:01,750
checkmate the quickest and what you read

2353
01:38:06,570 --> 01:38:04,360
a does is analyze situations and they

2354
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:06,580
only make decisions that are in the

2355
01:38:12,030 --> 01:38:08,290
eventual best interest of all parties

2356
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:12,040
concern or their sinless in other words

2357
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,010
the the occupants and the craft are in a

2358
01:38:19,470 --> 01:38:17,440
sinless frame of mind where they have

2359
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:19,480
this foresight to look into the future

2360
01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:22,330
and make decisions based on the eventual

2361
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:24,550
welfare of all parties concerned to the

2362
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:25,810
point where the ship will self-destruct

2363
01:38:30,930 --> 01:38:29,170
rather than harm anybody okay so they

2364
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:30,940
were the ones that warned us about the

2365
01:38:35,460 --> 01:38:33,010
where owes this this race of biological

2366
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:35,470
robots that was an experiment that went

2367
01:38:39,450 --> 01:38:37,900
wrong long ago that has come here and

2368
01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:39,460
damned perd with our genes and created

2369
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:41,950
this warlike psyche so that we compete

2370
01:38:46,170 --> 01:38:44,080
with one another to the death

2371
01:38:47,580 --> 01:38:46,180
and expedite this technology because

2372
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:47,590
there's something on the technological

2373
01:38:53,190 --> 01:38:51,520
singularity that they want in the

2374
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:53,200
meanwhile the friendship group and all

2375
01:38:56,670 --> 01:38:55,690
the humanoid aliens that are on our side

2376
01:38:57,930 --> 01:38:56,680
so to speak

2377
01:38:59,120 --> 01:38:57,940
they're kind of playing in the

2378
01:39:01,440 --> 01:38:59,130
background because they have this

2379
01:39:02,730 --> 01:39:01,450
non-interference thing they may have

2380
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:02,740
been the ones that showed up with all

2381
01:39:06,330 --> 01:39:04,570
our nuclear facilities and shut down the

2382
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:06,340
capability of the Minuteman Rockets like

2383
01:39:11,610 --> 01:39:08,800
Robert solace at milestone right at the

2384
01:39:13,140 --> 01:39:11,620
same time there was a facility in Soviet

2385
01:39:14,610 --> 01:39:13,150
Union that the same thing was happening

2386
01:39:17,940 --> 01:39:14,620
there

2387
01:39:19,820 --> 01:39:17,950
they're trying not to allow us to

2388
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:19,830
destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons

2389
01:39:24,630 --> 01:39:22,750
they showed up here and there you know

2390
01:39:26,430 --> 01:39:24,640
back in the 50s as humanoid aliens

2391
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:26,440
talking about non-proliferation and we

2392
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:27,520
got to get rid of our nuclear weapons

2393
01:39:34,830 --> 01:39:31,210
they're very much background figures but

2394
01:39:36,690 --> 01:39:34,840
they warned us of this group that does

2395
01:39:38,610 --> 01:39:36,700
not have our best interest in mind and

2396
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:38,620
they're going to use this technological

2397
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:41,320
singularity for a huge sulphur

2398
01:39:45,780 --> 01:39:43,570
replication event of some sort where

2399
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:45,790
they merge at least like a portion of

2400
01:39:49,620 --> 01:39:47,170
human consciousness with their

2401
01:39:51,150 --> 01:39:49,630
technology and make it part of

2402
01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:51,160
themselves part of their hive mind

2403
01:39:56,970 --> 01:39:54,550
somehow so there's a lot of really wild

2404
01:39:59,970 --> 01:39:56,980
things that are going to become apparent

2405
01:40:01,800 --> 01:39:59,980
in the next 20 or 30 years so I'm hoping

2406
01:40:04,260 --> 01:40:01,810
that you know I can stay alive in this

2407
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:04,270
physical body long enough to see some of

2408
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:06,490
these things but I've told myself that

2409
01:40:10,710 --> 01:40:08,530
the next time my physical body is about

2410
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:10,720
to break down I'm gonna let it go

2411
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:13,810
because I you know I remember back in oh

2412
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:15,810
nine when I had that decision I

2413
01:40:19,470 --> 01:40:18,010
sometimes occasionally wondered if I

2414
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:19,480
made the right decision and I'm still

2415
01:40:23,130 --> 01:40:21,370
curious what would have happened if I'd

2416
01:40:25,650 --> 01:40:23,140
have caved in and passed away on that

2417
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:25,660
day so I don't think I'm gonna go

2418
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:27,850
through a whole lot of major surgery or

2419
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:29,050
anything to keep myself alive

2420
01:40:34,740 --> 01:40:31,210
indefinitely because I'm so curious

2421
01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:34,750
about you know the nature of the higher

2422
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:37,060
frequency bands that I really want to

2423
01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:39,130
get up there and like you said I've read

2424
01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:41,020
even Alexander's book and all the lovely

2425
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:42,400
things that so many people have said

2426
01:40:46,740 --> 01:40:45,010
that have actually died and the really

2427
01:40:49,130 --> 01:40:46,750
cool thing about the age that we're

2428
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:49,140
living in is that it's no longer

2429
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:51,850
scientifically unfeasible things like

2430
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:54,010
reincarnation and the afterlife these

2431
01:40:58,250 --> 01:40:56,110
are being studied at major universities

2432
01:40:59,680 --> 01:40:58,260
now there's a fellow

2433
01:41:02,569 --> 01:40:59,690
Facebook friends with Ranieri oh

2434
01:41:05,390 --> 01:41:02,579
Hernandez who teamed up with the late

2435
01:41:07,580 --> 01:41:05,400
astronaut Edgar Mitchell and formed the

2436
01:41:10,509 --> 01:41:07,590
free organization and they've got a very

2437
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:10,519
impressive list of PhD level Dr level

2438
01:41:15,890 --> 01:41:13,530
scientists that are studying the UFO

2439
01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:15,900
phenomena and its relationship to human

2440
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:18,420
consciousness right now now that's major

2441
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:22,050
because for the last few decades I mean

2442
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:24,000
the scientific communities all they did

2443
01:41:28,700 --> 01:41:25,920
was just cross their arms and chuckle

2444
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:28,710
right yeah ever since the the Condon

2445
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:30,239
committee you know come out with their

2446
01:41:34,850 --> 01:41:33,449
bogus results you know the people in the

2447
01:41:38,750 --> 01:41:34,860
scientific community didn't feel like

2448
01:41:40,669 --> 01:41:38,760
they were edible scientist I'm not sure

2449
01:41:42,500 --> 01:41:40,679
that the Condon committee wasn't right

2450
01:41:45,410 --> 01:41:42,510
you know maybe we can't handle the truth

2451
01:41:47,689 --> 01:41:45,420
we're you know like I like you were just

2452
01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:47,699
saying you know we're we're a weird

2453
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:49,679
species and the fact that we kill each

2454
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:54,210
other and because we do that you know

2455
01:41:59,089 --> 01:41:56,400
we're now in an age where killing each

2456
01:42:02,060 --> 01:41:59,099
other is just stupid you know but is it

2457
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:02,070
gonna stop no I I don't see it stopping

2458
01:42:06,169 --> 01:42:03,840
and the reason why I don't see it

2459
01:42:08,450 --> 01:42:06,179
stopping is because only so many people

2460
01:42:10,729 --> 01:42:08,460
are being given this higher frequency or

2461
01:42:12,770 --> 01:42:10,739
whatever the heck has happened to us so

2462
01:42:16,700 --> 01:42:12,780
we understand there's no reason to kill

2463
01:42:19,370 --> 01:42:16,710
anybody but the other beings on this

2464
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:19,380
planet I don't consider them human in a

2465
01:42:25,009 --> 01:42:21,840
weird way I consider them barbarians

2466
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:25,019
you know barbarians they just don't have

2467
01:42:31,759 --> 01:42:29,250
the same spark that we've been given as

2468
01:42:33,620 --> 01:42:31,769
contact these is near-death experiencers

2469
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:33,630
those people that are psychic or people

2470
01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:35,489
that are awake or whatever you want to

2471
01:42:39,950 --> 01:42:37,920
call it there's something that happens

2472
01:42:41,899 --> 01:42:39,960
once you realize there's evil on this

2473
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:41,909
planet everything changes the playing

2474
01:42:47,029 --> 01:42:44,730
field becomes very different well lots

2475
01:42:48,379 --> 01:42:47,039
of people accepted this as a fatalistic

2476
01:42:50,359 --> 01:42:48,389
sort of thing it's like we've always

2477
01:42:53,029 --> 01:42:50,369
been predators it'll always be that way

2478
01:42:54,799 --> 01:42:53,039
whoever has the most powerful weapons is

2479
01:42:57,470 --> 01:42:54,809
supposed to survive and everybody else

2480
01:42:59,000 --> 01:42:57,480
is supposed to be dead friend you know

2481
01:43:00,410 --> 01:42:59,010
in that and I don't think any further

2482
01:43:02,419 --> 01:43:00,420
about it than that

2483
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:02,429
yeah it's horrifying and it's like you

2484
01:43:06,290 --> 01:43:04,110
know I'm finding myself distancing

2485
01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:06,300
myself from that entire mindset or even

2486
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:08,699
the desire to interact with it or

2487
01:43:11,899 --> 01:43:10,530
justify you know a different way of

2488
01:43:18,159 --> 01:43:11,909
looking at things it's like

2489
01:43:21,020 --> 01:43:18,169
I want to be with my own people that's

2490
01:43:23,209 --> 01:43:21,030
radio show Russell I tell people you

2491
01:43:25,790 --> 01:43:23,219
know they think I'm just kind of nutty I

2492
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:25,800
see your every week saying get to a

2493
01:43:30,020 --> 01:43:28,110
MUFON meeting because you know it's it

2494
01:43:32,029 --> 01:43:30,030
and like I tell people if MUFON it's a

2495
01:43:34,819 --> 01:43:32,039
great organization but it's not really

2496
01:43:36,679 --> 01:43:34,829
about MUFON for me at this point it's

2497
01:43:38,689 --> 01:43:36,689
about the fact that MUFON offers you a

2498
01:43:40,689 --> 01:43:38,699
place to go to meet other people like

2499
01:43:43,790 --> 01:43:40,699
yourself I think that's the most

2500
01:43:45,919 --> 01:43:43,800
important thing out there right you know

2501
01:43:47,540 --> 01:43:45,929
this event that just happened in

2502
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:47,550
Laughlin Nevada we went to the Hoover

2503
01:43:54,169 --> 01:43:49,050
Dam by the way and I got to tell you

2504
01:43:55,489 --> 01:43:54,179
about this we passed this 13 miles away

2505
01:43:56,929 --> 01:43:55,499
from the Hoover Dam and I looked at

2506
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:56,939
Julie she looked at me and said let's go

2507
01:44:01,159 --> 01:43:59,760
it was the most fantastic afternoon I

2508
01:44:03,500 --> 01:44:01,169
had ever had and you know what the

2509
01:44:06,140 --> 01:44:03,510
weirdest part about it was right there

2510
01:44:09,319 --> 01:44:06,150
by the Hoover Dam built in the 1930s is

2511
01:44:12,919 --> 01:44:09,329
a giant celestial calendar in granite

2512
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:12,929
that talks about the great year 25,920

2513
01:44:16,609 --> 01:44:15,360
year precession of the equinoxes coming

2514
01:44:19,549 --> 01:44:16,619
through the little speakers that were

2515
01:44:22,370 --> 01:44:19,559
mounted on the granite wall and there's

2516
01:44:23,899 --> 01:44:22,380
these tall bronze angelic statues up

2517
01:44:26,209 --> 01:44:23,909
there that people go ahead and rub their

2518
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:26,219
foot for good luck but they had a whole

2519
01:44:29,989 --> 01:44:28,650
celestial calendar about you know the

2520
01:44:32,659 --> 01:44:29,999
great year and it's like I've been

2521
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:32,669
hearing a lot about this on you know

2522
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:35,489
wisdom teachings with David Wilcock and

2523
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:38,010
you know the hamlets mill and how this

2524
01:44:41,679 --> 01:44:39,840
is embedded in all the cultures where

2525
01:44:44,290 --> 01:44:41,689
there's some sort of solar flash or

2526
01:44:48,469 --> 01:44:44,300
ascension type event you know every

2527
01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:48,479
25,920 years comes around so I was just

2528
01:44:51,979 --> 01:44:50,159
stunned I just stood there in the Sun

2529
01:44:53,689 --> 01:44:51,989
listening to this coming through the

2530
01:44:56,299 --> 01:44:53,699
speakers talking about the precession of

2531
01:44:58,429 --> 01:44:56,309
the equinoxes at the Hoover Dam on the

2532
01:45:01,279 --> 01:44:58,439
ground in granite it was wonderful that

2533
01:45:03,199 --> 01:45:01,289
is so cool yeah I've heard these angels

2534
01:45:06,679 --> 01:45:03,209
are they aren't they about 50 or 60 feet

2535
01:45:07,790 --> 01:45:06,689
tall it's very impressive and it's like

2536
01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:07,800
you go down through all these little

2537
01:45:12,259 --> 01:45:09,840
crags and it's like overhanging

2538
01:45:14,029 --> 01:45:12,269
mountains or almost like engulfing your

2539
01:45:15,890 --> 01:45:14,039
car I mean there's so beautiful tears

2540
01:45:17,839 --> 01:45:15,900
came to our eyes and we went up into

2541
01:45:19,580 --> 01:45:17,849
this little parking lot and they got the

2542
01:45:21,529 --> 01:45:19,590
elevators where you go down you can look

2543
01:45:24,020 --> 01:45:21,539
at the Hoover Dam and it's breathtaking

2544
01:45:25,340 --> 01:45:24,030
I had a friend of mine who lives in

2545
01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:25,350
Phoenix and said well if you're

2546
01:45:28,850 --> 01:45:26,880
that way you need to go see the Hoover

2547
01:45:30,590 --> 01:45:28,860
Dam that's we're seeing and I'm thinking

2548
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:30,600
Hoover Dam and who wants to see that you

2549
01:45:34,370 --> 01:45:32,370
know but it was really something and

2550
01:45:37,310 --> 01:45:34,380
just the whole history that's outlined

2551
01:45:40,850 --> 01:45:37,320
there in their tours and stuff that it's

2552
01:45:42,770 --> 01:45:40,860
just fantastic you know and that this

2553
01:45:44,690 --> 01:45:42,780
whole celestial calendar was there was

2554
01:45:46,460 --> 01:45:44,700
just kind of like par for the course for

2555
01:45:50,660 --> 01:45:46,470
the weekend that we were having you know

2556
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,670
had until a UFO convention all the

2557
01:45:54,350 --> 01:45:52,560
sudden you're in a room where sergeant

2558
01:45:56,300 --> 01:45:54,360
Clifford stone used to work for project

2559
01:45:57,950 --> 01:45:56,310
moon does the 90 moose on that's looking

2560
01:45:59,870 --> 01:45:57,960
at these bodies in Peru and grant

2561
01:46:02,450 --> 01:45:59,880
Cameron who just changed his paradigm to

2562
01:46:03,890 --> 01:46:02,460
the consciousness movement and it was

2563
01:46:07,220 --> 01:46:03,900
really cool I really had a great time

2564
01:46:10,730 --> 01:46:07,230
now what was your take on Clifford stone

2565
01:46:12,530 --> 01:46:10,740
what did you think of Lifford well I

2566
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:12,540
kind of felt a little tinge of pity

2567
01:46:17,870 --> 01:46:15,090
because when George Noory was

2568
01:46:20,540 --> 01:46:17,880
interviewing him he says okay now no

2569
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:20,550
slight to you you know but how many in

2570
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:23,010
this audience don't believe a word of

2571
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:24,930
this and about six or seven people went

2572
01:46:30,650 --> 01:46:27,360
hey you know and I assumed everybody

2573
01:46:33,410 --> 01:46:30,660
else you know was on board and the whole

2574
01:46:38,450 --> 01:46:33,420
flying saucer crash retrieval thing is

2575
01:46:40,670 --> 01:46:38,460
mired in ambiguity and hearsay and

2576
01:46:42,050 --> 01:46:40,680
things that are really difficult to get

2577
01:46:44,570 --> 01:46:42,060
to the bottom of Leonard Stringfield

2578
01:46:46,940 --> 01:46:44,580
spent 30 years of his life trying to get

2579
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:46,950
to the bottom of it and he's got five

2580
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:49,290
status reports that I've read and and

2581
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:51,600
they're within these status reports

2582
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:53,370
there's incidents that we'll talk about

2583
01:46:57,620 --> 01:46:55,170
like a doctor that he ran into the

2584
01:46:59,360 --> 01:46:57,630
Ashley did an autopsy on a little guy

2585
01:47:02,060 --> 01:46:59,370
they had lizard-like skin and stuff and

2586
01:47:04,190 --> 01:47:02,070
he was convinced that there is an

2587
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:04,200
underlying core of truth but then you've

2588
01:47:10,010 --> 01:47:07,770
got like my favorite UFO writer John

2589
01:47:12,290 --> 01:47:10,020
keel that just flat-out does not believe

2590
01:47:14,450 --> 01:47:12,300
in crash land saucers and pickled aliens

2591
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:14,460
and then you've got other people like

2592
01:47:18,110 --> 01:47:16,110
renegade military historian Douglas

2593
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:18,120
Dietrich who says that these were all

2594
01:47:23,210 --> 01:47:21,450
Japanese POWs John keel thinks that Mac

2595
01:47:26,990 --> 01:47:23,220
Brazel found a Fugo balloon

2596
01:47:29,180 --> 01:47:27,000
you know from Japan and none of us were

2597
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:29,190
there so the only thing that we're

2598
01:47:34,820 --> 01:47:33,030
really relying upon is hearsay and

2599
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:34,830
testimonies from people that say that

2600
01:47:38,470 --> 01:47:36,690
they were there that they do have direct

2601
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:38,480
knowledge of this and

2602
01:47:42,580 --> 01:47:40,130
everybody just has to come to their own

2603
01:47:45,550 --> 01:47:42,590
I mean Clifford stone is a wonderful

2604
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:45,560
person and I'm fascinated by his stories

2605
01:47:50,590 --> 01:47:47,330
of crash retrievals an alien encounters

2606
01:47:53,740 --> 01:47:50,600
and stuff and I just I just accept it as

2607
01:47:55,890 --> 01:47:53,750
a possibility and I do know one thing

2608
01:47:58,300 --> 01:47:55,900
about sergeant Clifford stone is he is

2609
01:48:01,660 --> 01:47:58,310
diligent since he was released from the

2610
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:01,670
service yeah researching documents it's

2611
01:48:09,010 --> 01:48:05,570
like he very much wants to ascertain his

2612
01:48:11,140 --> 01:48:09,020
story and I'm thinking you know nobody

2613
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:11,150
goes to that length of going through

2614
01:48:15,310 --> 01:48:13,250
millions of documents and everything in

2615
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:15,320
this desperate search to find out their

2616
01:48:19,270 --> 01:48:17,690
their own history you know and their own

2617
01:48:20,620 --> 01:48:19,280
verification of the things that they're

2618
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:20,630
telling people and people were telling

2619
01:48:24,250 --> 01:48:22,610
him he's full of crap and it'd be

2620
01:48:25,810 --> 01:48:24,260
frustrating I mean if these things

2621
01:48:27,550 --> 01:48:25,820
really happened the sergeant Clifford

2622
01:48:30,550 --> 01:48:27,560
stone and he's telling the world but

2623
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,560
it's almost like Philip Corso when he

2624
01:48:34,180 --> 01:48:32,480
wrote the book the day after Roswell he

2625
01:48:35,770 --> 01:48:34,190
got bitter at the end it just said you

2626
01:48:43,690 --> 01:48:35,780
know what it probably been deserved to

2627
01:48:45,310 --> 01:48:43,700
know and you know I can relate to I was

2628
01:48:47,110 --> 01:48:45,320
just sitting here today thinking you

2629
01:48:48,940 --> 01:48:47,120
know I just want to give it all up and

2630
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:48,950
just crawl back under a rock again and

2631
01:48:54,340 --> 01:48:52,010
just get it North the job you know I

2632
01:48:56,830 --> 01:48:54,350
just I have days where I just got it so

2633
01:48:58,540 --> 01:48:56,840
futile but it really does you know once

2634
01:49:01,540 --> 01:48:58,550
you're in I don't think there's any way

2635
01:49:03,460 --> 01:49:01,550
out and the interesting part about

2636
01:49:06,250 --> 01:49:03,470
Clifford stone I just want to say is

2637
01:49:08,890 --> 01:49:06,260
that he's had major telepathic

2638
01:49:11,710 --> 01:49:08,900
communication with aliens and I think it

2639
01:49:13,420 --> 01:49:11,720
absolutely has got him to the point

2640
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:13,430
where he is thinking like you and I are

2641
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:15,770
just talking about he doesn't really

2642
01:49:19,870 --> 01:49:18,050
want to talk about it anymore he just

2643
01:49:22,570 --> 01:49:19,880
wants to get through the next to the

2644
01:49:24,910 --> 01:49:22,580
next day because you know he's been

2645
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:24,920
there and done that and you know when

2646
01:49:30,070 --> 01:49:26,960
you sit and you help he actually helped

2647
01:49:32,770 --> 01:49:30,080
an alien escape run get back home so you

2648
01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:32,780
know I mean he's done his Yeomans duty

2649
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:34,180
right

2650
01:49:40,060 --> 01:49:37,970
he's very empathetic and every time he

2651
01:49:41,229 --> 01:49:40,070
tells certain portions of the story he

2652
01:49:47,190 --> 01:49:41,239
breaks down emotionally

2653
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:51,490
from its PTSD from dealing with so many

2654
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:52,400
people that

2655
01:49:57,070 --> 01:49:54,530
so hard on him for what he was doing at

2656
01:50:00,600 --> 01:49:57,080
the time you gotta understand he was

2657
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:00,610
dealing with people that wanted results

2658
01:50:06,700 --> 01:50:03,290
didn't want him to show emotion with the

2659
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:06,710
the et you know and and then when he

2660
01:50:11,140 --> 01:50:09,170
left that thing escaped I mean that was

2661
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:11,150
that I mean then they were really you

2662
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:13,730
know they still used him but at that

2663
01:50:20,130 --> 01:50:15,650
point they can't trust him anymore right

2664
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:22,899
there's one thing for sure if you listen

2665
01:50:26,140 --> 01:50:24,650
to the testimony of Bill Cooper and

2666
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:26,150
Robert Dean and all these people that

2667
01:50:31,180 --> 01:50:28,610
were in the military there are documents

2668
01:50:33,550 --> 01:50:31,190
that they present to high-level officers

2669
01:50:36,729 --> 01:50:33,560
that go into great detail about humanoid

2670
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:36,739
aliens and whether they're true or not

2671
01:50:40,689 --> 01:50:39,110
is up to each researcher to determine

2672
01:50:42,790 --> 01:50:40,699
for themselves but the fact that the

2673
01:50:45,490 --> 01:50:42,800
documents exist and that they're being

2674
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:45,500
shown to officers and told that they're

2675
01:50:50,890 --> 01:50:48,770
true is factual yeah oh that is

2676
01:50:52,750 --> 01:50:50,900
absolutely true and that's what Clifford

2677
01:50:54,399 --> 01:50:52,760
told me he said you know I said where

2678
01:50:56,709 --> 01:50:54,409
they the greys or whatever he goes no it

2679
01:50:58,959 --> 01:50:56,719
looked like a human beam with big eyes

2680
01:51:01,080 --> 01:50:58,969
and you know bigger eyes and normal

2681
01:51:03,970 --> 01:51:01,090
smaller mouths smaller fit you know nose

2682
01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:03,980
type of thing and I said really he goes

2683
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:06,800
yeah yeah they're definitely you know

2684
01:51:10,660 --> 01:51:09,290
they could pass off as a human that

2685
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,670
there's something wrong with them but

2686
01:51:14,410 --> 01:51:13,040
they're still human you know well it's

2687
01:51:16,270 --> 01:51:14,420
got to be really frustrating is

2688
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:16,280
something really beyond the norm that's

2689
01:51:19,390 --> 01:51:17,690
happened to you in your life and you're

2690
01:51:22,390 --> 01:51:19,400
telling people the truth about it and

2691
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:22,400
they're just not able to accept it as

2692
01:51:25,959 --> 01:51:24,170
something real I mean it would just get

2693
01:51:27,850 --> 01:51:25,969
old and get very frustrating after a

2694
01:51:30,430 --> 01:51:27,860
while I was surprised to hear from

2695
01:51:32,410 --> 01:51:30,440
Clifford stone he said this convention

2696
01:51:33,910 --> 01:51:32,420
might be his last public appearance I

2697
01:51:36,729 --> 01:51:33,920
know he just had major heart surgery

2698
01:51:38,290 --> 01:51:36,739
I think last March I talked to him and

2699
01:51:39,850 --> 01:51:38,300
when I was in the process of writing

2700
01:51:41,649 --> 01:51:39,860
overlords of the singularity

2701
01:51:43,149 --> 01:51:41,659
I gave him a copy by the way because I

2702
01:51:45,490 --> 01:51:43,159
talked about Clifford stone quite a bit

2703
01:51:47,530 --> 01:51:45,500
and I figured if I talked about in he

2704
01:51:49,149 --> 01:51:47,540
deserves a copy so I sent one home to

2705
01:51:51,010 --> 01:51:49,159
Roswell with him I don't know if he'll

2706
01:51:53,919 --> 01:51:51,020
read it or not but I'm really curious if

2707
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:53,929
he does and but you know I talked to him

2708
01:51:56,830 --> 01:51:55,010
on the telephone for about three hours

2709
01:51:59,860 --> 01:51:56,840
and he's just he's a wonderful person

2710
01:52:01,720 --> 01:51:59,870
and he's very he always ends his

2711
01:52:05,229 --> 01:52:01,730
Facebook post with god bless I mean he's

2712
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:05,239
just really an empathetic kind person

2713
01:52:07,419 --> 01:52:06,170
and I just can't

2714
01:52:09,729 --> 01:52:07,429
see somebody like that you know

2715
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:09,739
fabricating this big lie you know I'm

2716
01:52:15,700 --> 01:52:11,810
telling everybody because he certainly

2717
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:15,710
has profited you know nobody's profited

2718
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:20,719
from it people you know when you said at

2719
01:52:24,250 --> 01:52:22,250
the beginning of the show I don't do

2720
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:24,260
this for the money well that's true

2721
01:52:29,020 --> 01:52:25,489
folks because I can tell you right now

2722
01:52:31,510 --> 01:52:29,030
I've run every kind of book company you

2723
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:31,520
can run and I'm telling you there is no

2724
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:33,920
money in books anymore and it's sad it's

2725
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:37,610
really people are looking online and one

2726
01:52:42,430 --> 01:52:40,250
thing that I've noticed is if I

2727
01:52:45,010 --> 01:52:42,440
recommend a book to somebody they'll get

2728
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:45,020
on Google real quick and get the debunk

2729
01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:47,570
or to get the get the skinny on it you

2730
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:49,310
know and make up their mind if they're

2731
01:52:52,540 --> 01:52:50,570
going to read the book or not just based

2732
01:52:54,430 --> 01:52:52,550
on the little blurb that they read on

2733
01:52:56,260 --> 01:52:54,440
Google and you know as well as I do that

2734
01:52:58,450 --> 01:52:56,270
you can get on Google and put any word

2735
01:53:01,090 --> 01:52:58,460
in the English language on there and the

2736
01:53:11,050 --> 01:53:01,100
word debunked or hoax will be right

2737
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:11,060
after it you know nobody wants to

2738
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:13,040
believe it's that simple until it

2739
01:53:16,750 --> 01:53:14,719
actually smacks you upside the head I

2740
01:53:19,870 --> 01:53:16,760
just don't think that many people are

2741
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:19,880
gonna believe anything well this this

2742
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:21,530
whole thing is this like the wild wild

2743
01:53:26,709 --> 01:53:24,650
west of information and one person that

2744
01:53:28,630 --> 01:53:26,719
I wish was still around was James Mosely

2745
01:53:31,090 --> 01:53:28,640
he used to have a magazine called saucer

2746
01:53:32,530 --> 01:53:31,100
smear that had all the latest gossip you

2747
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:32,540
know about all the apologists and

2748
01:53:36,189 --> 01:53:34,400
everything and I've got a couple of

2749
01:53:38,740 --> 01:53:36,199
copies of that I got on eBay and they're

2750
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:38,750
hilarious and people have lost their

2751
01:53:44,050 --> 01:53:41,570
sense of humor I mean Sean David Morton

2752
01:53:46,959 --> 01:53:44,060
I saw him on a YouTube video where he

2753
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:46,969
was kind of emceeing a convention where

2754
01:53:51,220 --> 01:53:49,010
Richard Dolan and Douglas D Church and a

2755
01:53:52,510 --> 01:53:51,230
couple of people were there they're kind

2756
01:53:54,820 --> 01:53:52,520
of clashed with each other and he

2757
01:53:56,860 --> 01:53:54,830
expertly just lightened it all up and

2758
01:53:58,689 --> 01:53:56,870
told the joke you know and I think

2759
01:54:00,160 --> 01:53:58,699
that's sort of needed in the UFO field

2760
01:54:01,780 --> 01:54:00,170
there's a sense of humor to come back

2761
01:54:03,610 --> 01:54:01,790
into because you know we're all just

2762
01:54:05,169 --> 01:54:03,620
trying to figure this thing out we know

2763
01:54:08,650 --> 01:54:05,179
that there's a core of reality to it

2764
01:54:10,750 --> 01:54:08,660
earth is like a cargo cult some of us

2765
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:10,760
have seen things that don't belong there

2766
01:54:15,180 --> 01:54:13,280
or that weren't made here we know it for

2767
01:54:17,470 --> 01:54:15,190
to be a fact and then you've got the

2768
01:54:18,689 --> 01:54:17,480
shamans who claim to be in touch with

2769
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:18,699
the airplane pilot

2770
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:21,130
you you got this whole host of

2771
01:54:26,009 --> 01:54:24,130
characters the hucksters the profiteers

2772
01:54:28,169 --> 01:54:26,019
that play on people's gullibility and

2773
01:54:30,540 --> 01:54:28,179
make up stuff and then you've got the

2774
01:54:33,689 --> 01:54:30,550
the real deal and it's the real deal

2775
01:54:38,129 --> 01:54:33,699
that all of us want to weed through the

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